Bucks pivot to Lavine with Detroit

[JayMKE]

LaVine is a bad fit in style and his obscene contract, Bucks can’t give up their 1st in deal like this.

[Mr Peanut]

Did i just read that Middleton isn't an upgrade over Beas....WTF

Well one plays the majority of basketball games and one doesn't.

One has hit the third most three pointers this season and one hasn't.

One is about to turn 34 years old while the other is 28.

Once you figure out who is who then you realize where the upgrade is.

[mlloyd10]

Did i just read that Middleton isn't an upgrade over Beas....WTF

Well one plays the majority of basketball games and one doesn't.

One has hit the third most three pointers this season and one hasn't.

One is about to turn 34 years old while the other is 28.

Once you figure out who is who then you realize where the upgrade is.

One is a chucker and one isn’t…

Sure, at this very moment, Beasley is better due to availability.

The injury risk is huge for Middleton, but let not act that Beasley is a really good basketball player.

For all the reasons you gave, Beasley must be better than Kawhi, Jimmy and Paul G

[theBigLip]

Did i just read that Middleton isn't an upgrade over Beas....WTF

Well one plays the majority of basketball games and one doesn't.

One has hit the third most three pointers this season and one hasn't.

One is about to turn 34 years old while the other is 28.

Once you figure out who is who then you realize where the upgrade is.

One is a chucker and one isn’t…

Sure, at this very moment, Beasley is better due to availability.

The injury risk is huge for Middleton, but let not act that Beasley is a really good basketball player.

For all the reasons you gave, Beasley must be better than Kawhi, Jimmy and Paul G

Considering how much they are getting paid for not playing, there may be some truth to that

[oldncreaky]

Well one plays the majority of basketball games and one doesn't.

One has hit the third most three pointers this season and one hasn't.

One is about to turn 34 years old while the other is 28.

Once you figure out who is who then you realize where the upgrade is.

One is a chucker and one isn’t…

Sure, at this very moment, Beasley is better due to availability.

The injury risk is huge for Middleton, but let not act that Beasley is a really good basketball player.

For all the reasons you gave, Beasley must be better than Kawhi, Jimmy and Paul G

Considering how much they are getting paid for not playing, there may be some truth to that

For posters who mostly watched Beasley last season, I get it. I only saw him a few times on the Bucks, but thought he was nearly unplayable, and I was severely disappointed when DET took him on.

However, Beasley has arguably been having the best year of his career in DET. Some of it may be luck, some of it may be fit, some of it may be a hot streak that will fade, but he's been a huge positive and that's why fans are reluctant to give him up. I couldn't have been more wrong about Beasley coming to DET.

That said, I'm cautious about investing in Beasley longer-term. I've seen way too many young shooters get paid because of a hot shooting streak, and then revert to their normal level of play once they secure the bag, so I am very sensitive to the contract cost if DET keeps Beasley. Also, I could be convinced to send him out in trade if the incoming asset was worth it because DET could well be selling high.

But getting back on topic, even if the value of the OP is fine, the direction isn't. Referring to the thread on team needs, DET's priorities are
(1) Don't mess up our first promising run in more than a decade
(2) Get a ball handler to lead the bench so we don't chew our fingernails off whenever Cade sits
(3) Find a PF of the future

Either THJ or Beasley going out messes with rule #1, and Middleton coming in doesn't address any of our key needs either now or in the future

[SA37]

The Bucks have to move Connaughton separately to get under the 2nd apron to aggregate.

I think Middleton is clearly an upgrade over Hardaway Jr, but I am not sure Middleton fits better.

[theBigLip]

One is a chucker and one isn’t…

Sure, at this very moment, Beasley is better due to availability.

The injury risk is huge for Middleton, but let not act that Beasley is a really good basketball player.

For all the reasons you gave, Beasley must be better than Kawhi, Jimmy and Paul G

Considering how much they are getting paid for not playing, there may be some truth to that

For posters who mostly watched Beasley last season, I get it. I only saw him a few times on the Bucks, but thought he was nearly unplayable, and I was severely disappointed when DET took him on.

However, Beasley has arguably been having the best year of his career in DET. Some of it may be luck, some of it may be fit, some of it may be a hot streak that will fade, but he's been a huge positive and that's why fans are reluctant to give him up. I couldn't have been more wrong about Beasley coming to DET.

That said, I'm cautious about investing in Beasley longer-term. I've seen way too many young shooters get paid because of a hot shooting streak, and then revert to their normal level of play once they secure the bag, so I am very sensitive to the contract cost if DET keeps Beasley. Also, I could be convinced to send him out in trade if the incoming asset was worth it because DET could well be selling high.

But getting back on topic, even if the value of the OP is fine, the direction isn't. Referring to the thread on team needs, DET's priorities are
(1) Don't mess up our first promising run in more than a decade
(2) Get a ball handler to lead the bench so we don't chew our fingernails off whenever Cade sits
(3) Find a PF of the future

Either THJ or Beasley going out messes with rule #1, and Middleton coming in doesn't address any of our key needs either now or in the future

Well said.

If we can find that PF of the future, then I’d be ok w moving any combo of Harris, Beasley or THJ. But obviously Middleton isn’t that guy.

If Detroit combines one of those vets plus cap space, that might be enough to get a PF.

[Ron Swanson]

LaVine being an immovable albatross just this past offseason and now the Bucks would throw in a 2031 1st to acquire him? Maybe they really are this stupid, but until it happens, this is a rather ridiculous overpay for, again, a guy who's still one of the worst contracts in the league:

Money has been one of the biggest obstacles preventing a LaVine trade. He has two guaranteed years remaining on his contract including this season with salaries of $43 million and $46 million, plus a $48.97 million player option for 2026-27.

In a ranking of the worst-value contracts in the NBA posted in March, Keith Smith of Spotrac had LaVine's deal as the third-worst primarily because of injuries that have limited his playing time.

Hell, you can easily argue that the Bucks are owed value here.