Trade which wont happen- Banchero<-->Fox

[orlando_joe]

4 firsts a first swap and kcp for fox wow!! he has 1 yr left and could walk is there not word that he only has 1 or 2 teams in mind in fa? dont think orlando is one .. not great shooter and may start to decline with speed..
i dont see him getting anything close to this from magic

Not saying it would be my first offer on the phone either. But in terms of where the price might go to get him, I am guessing it is not too far off - Spurs could offer a pretty good package without including any of their own picks even. The value of the picks are not super good either in my estimation. My guess would be that the Magic would at least catch Miami and Detroit after getting Fox, so the picks this year could be somehting like 17-20 from Orlando and 25ish from Denver. The other two first I would assume are not great either, a little protection on these would of cause be nice as well for Orlando.

I think Fox leaving is a fair concern, and it would make sense only to do the deal if you have an idea that he would like to stay. Good weather, up and coming team, doesn't seem like the worst situation.

I am also a little unsure if Fox is the best way to go, but it is a player that fits the timeline. An other option could be a veteran guard which could probably be had a lot cheaper - in the offseason I thought the Magic should have went after Harden rather than KCP. If the Spurs want to trade for Fox and CP3 would like to move on from the Spurs to not have his role reduced, maybe getting involved and getting CP3 could be an option too if he was open to it.

i think spurs is place to go ..its place he wants to be can offer more knowing that

[db-coop]

i think spurs is place to go ..its place he wants to be can offer more knowing that

Probably, mostly I just don't really like the fit with Wemby that much.

[Devilanche]

Yeap it won’t happen.

You try and see where if goes if you are Orlando . If it doesn’t work between Banchero , Wagner and sugg … probably you move Suggs ?

Edit - and you move one of the core trio like 3 playoffs later.

Sure but Suggs actually compliments both players and is a competetive beast while having the least value.
Why make a mistake when you can try to predict the future and plan around it ?

Cause guards has more talents than forwards and if it failed a few more times, I want find someone who can better feed my forwards easier shots.

[The Beam King]

Did you miss the part where he added Keon Ellis who is a very good supporting player and. Atop notch perimeter defender and like 4 1st round picks?

I have Keon Ellis as a nice player, but not exactly an overly valuable player. I think this board as a whole tends to overvalue role players. And I read the pick part as not including pick swaps. Because if it's every pick outside of 2026 excluding pick swaps, that comes down to the 2028 and 2030 picks. Which again is nice, but not this amazing thing.

I'd be happen to take him out and insert the expiring of Trey lylea.

[Ducklett]

If the Magic trade Paolo, i can't imagine it would be for Fox.

[zaymon]

If the Magic trade Paolo, i can't imagine it would be for Fox.

I know this trade wont happen, but the idea was amusing and i was curious of the response.

[Jkam31]

As a kings fan is even throw in Keegan to get Paolo magic aren’t stupid

[OGSactownballer]

Kind of like the idea of a deal between Orlando and Sacremento, it just sort of seems that it is the wrong team that tries to get really good now in OP's trade idea.

Orlando in: De'Aaron Fox, Jordan McLaughlin
Sacremento in: Cole Anthony, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DEN25FRP, ORL25FRP, ORL27FRP, ORL29FRP, 26 swap-rights

Orlando gets a primary offensive creator to pair with Banchero and Wagner which fits the time-line. The team should be able to hold on to all three and Suggs and Wendell-Carter on their current deals for the comning years.

Wendell-Carter (28), Bitadze (12), M. Wagner (8)
Banchero (36), Isaac (12)
F. Wagner (36), Da Silva (12)
Suggs (28), Black (20)
Fox (38), Suggs (10)

Sacremento picks up some juicy draft assets to rebuild around Sabonis, either through draft or future trades. They loose creation but (assuming KCP's shooting returns to normal) they will have added defense and shooting.

Sabonis (38), Lyles (10)
Murray (36), Lyles (12)
DeRozan (36), Ellis (12)
Caldwell-Pope (30), Ellis (18)
Monk (34), Anthony (14)

This is an easy hard no from Sac.

And the original is weighed to heavy in favor of ORL. It’s not like they are getting nothing and including Keon makes no sense for ORL who has Suggs and for Sac and Thomsen’s our best multi positional guard defenders.

I’d drop at least half the picks out and switch Keon to Huerter (and ORL hopes he regains his shooting touch which they desperately need) and balance it on the other side.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Why would Orlando move Banchero for Fox let alone add in Anthony Black?

[MoneyTalks41890]

Spitballing

Jonathan Issac, Anthony Black, Jett, De Silva, 2 1sts

For

Fox, Lyles, Colby

[Jkam31]

Spitballing

Jonathan Issac, Anthony Black, Jett, De Silva, 2 1sts

For

Fox, Lyles, Colby

Asinine not to have Suggs in y any proposal

[BoogieTime]

Spitballing

Jonathan Issac, Anthony Black, Jett, De Silva, 2 1sts

For

Fox, Lyles, Colby

Your assigning a lot of value to Isaac here..