What would have been better offers for Doncic?

[Snakebites]

The same. Just with Reaves and that last first rounder.

Thats what’s absurd about this. They’re trading Luka freaking Doncic and they didn’t even empty the cupboard of a relatively asset poor team.

[vincecarter4pres]

Anything else. That is the answer. Anything.

[vincecarter4pres]

I haven't seen a better individual player than AD offered in here.

Most of the picks they would have gotten for Luka would have been re-routed for a superstar defensive big man anyway. Why not cut out the middle man?

But why?

[vincecarter4pres]

I guess even the Lakers would've offered something better if the Mavs insisted or played their hands right.

Like add Reaves and another pick and a swap for some salary filler from the Mavs.

I think people are underestimating what the Lakers gave up. AD is 31, not 41, and is playing at his peak. He pairs really well with LeBron and is one of the top 2-3 two-way players in the league. Christie is a very promising 21-year-old 3 and D on a cost-controlled contract whose peak is probably somewhere between KCP and Mikal Bridges. And Luka only has 1.5 more seasons on his contract and who knows what he wants then.

If you look at this like a 1.5 year rental, Dallas got a decent return.


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With respect, I couldn't disagree more

If either of the teams I follow were offered either
(1) Luka, Kleber, Morris
or
(2) AD, Christie, 2029 FRP
for the same outgoing assets, I'd take package #1 with Luka 100 times out of 10

It’s not even close.

[TheSuzerain]

So we know what they got from the Lakers for him.

But let's think about what alternative packages may have been out there if Luka was more thoroughly shopped (as Mavs only negotiated with Lakers if their GM is to be believed).

The obvious one for me is a package from Houston.

Sengun + FVV + Eason + picks.

Dallas could then swing FVV and picks for Butler if they wanted to build a short term contender.

[chrbal]

There’s a report that they only talked to two teams (lakers obviously being one), it makes you wonder what the other offer was.

I get the issues with this one, but it really feels like Dallas called the Lakers and said “we’ll send you Luka for Davis and a first”. Lakers accepted and then hammered out the rest of the details.

It doesn’t seem like there was much back and forth

[MartinToVaught]

I haven't seen a better individual player than AD offered in here.

Most of the picks they would have gotten for Luka would have been re-routed for a superstar defensive big man anyway. Why not cut out the middle man?

If the Mavs had traded a boatload of picks for an aging, broken-down AD instead, they'd still be getting blasted right now. The hypocrisy of citing health and conditioning as an excuse to trade Luka only to replace him with an older player whose nickname is "Street Clothes" would still be there.

On the other hand, they probably also would have had a better roster to put around him and Kyrie with whatever other players they would have gotten in a fair trade market. Instead they only got AD and one pick.

Beyond that, we don't know who else would have been offered for Luka because the Mavs didn't actually try to seek out any other teams' offers.

[Kiss of Death]

Practically every other NBA team could have beaten that offer.
Either with players or picks or a combination.
Even the Suns could have offered Booker and 3 first rounders plus Dunn and Jones in separate trades.

[vincecarter4pres]

Practically every other NBA team could have beaten that offer.
Either with players or picks or a combination.
Even the Suns could have offered Booker and 3 first rounders plus Dunn and Jones in separate trades.

Was thinking about this too, like they didn’t even call Phoenix?

[MartinToVaught]

Another thing to think about: people were calling Luka a "flight risk" based on nothing earlier in this thread, but the last time AD had to be the #1 option on a team, he quit on the Pelicans and demanded a trade. What's stopping him from doing the same to Dallas?

[HornetJail]

Another thing to think about: people were calling Luka a "flight risk" based on nothing earlier in this thread, but the last time AD had to be the #1 option on a team, he quit on the Pelicans and demanded a trade. What's stopping him from doing the same to Dallas?

nothing

If Kyrie or AD is on the Mavs in 3 years, I'll be surprised

[Andre Roberstan]

So we know what they got from the Lakers for him.

But let's think about what alternative packages may have been out there if Luka was more thoroughly shopped (as Mavs only negotiated with Lakers if their GM is to be believed).

The obvious one for me is a package from Houston.

Sengun + FVV + Eason + picks.

Dallas could then swing FVV and picks for Butler if they wanted to build a short term contender.

Merged into the bigger thread.

[winforlose]

Another thing to think about: people were calling Luka a "flight risk" based on nothing earlier in this thread, but the last time AD had to be the #1 option on a team, he quit on the Pelicans and demanded a trade. What's stopping him from doing the same to Dallas?

His age. Last time he was in his prime. This time he turns 32 next month and his prime is all but over. Now you expect him to start the decline and at high salary point that is tough to move, much less leverage your way out of.