Trade LeBron

[Karmaloop]

You need to consider roster construction, player age, and contract details. Allen, at 26, is signed to a 5-year, $130 million contract. LeBron, at 40, has a 2-year, $100 million deal with an opt-out clause. Allen absolutely has more value to Cleveland than LeBron would.

Unless you're absolutely convinced that LeBron is about to fall off the face of the cliff, it's not even close. Jarrett Allen is an ancillary player. I'd venture majority of the league would take LeBron over Allen.

[brackdan70]

Not advocating for it, but LBJ for Jaylen Brown. Which teams has to add value?

[DowJones]

While it's fun idea, I think Lebron is probably into Doncic's game and wants to play with him.

He just wants to live in LA. LeBron's primary focus isn't on chasing greatness or winning more rings—he just wants to live in LA, and he's earned that right.

[DirtyDez]

The Lakers should not be caring about this year and gathering as many assets as possible. If that means LeBron and he’s cool with it you trade him.

[DowJones]

You need to consider roster construction, player age, and contract details. Allen, at 26, is signed to a 5-year, $130 million contract. LeBron, at 40, has a 2-year, $100 million deal with an opt-out clause. Allen absolutely has more value to Cleveland than LeBron would.

Unless you're absolutely convinced that LeBron is about to fall off the face of the cliff, it's not even close. Jarrett Allen is an ancillary player. I'd venture majority of the league would take LeBron over Allen.

Calling Allen an ancillary player is acccurate. This ties back to roster construction—Cleveland has two All-Star guards who drive the offense, along with a big like Mobley who demands touches. While LeBron has his strengths, they largely rely on having the ball in his hands. He’s not a strong off-ball player, and his defense has declined. Allen, on the other hand, excels in both areas.

I don't believe most teams in the league would take LeBron when you factor in his age and contract. More importantly, the Cavs have a strong 5-year window, and I think Allen on his current deal is more valuable during that span than LeBron on his

[jbk1234]

Jarrett Allen is worth more than LeBron. Now I’ve seen it all.

Due to their respective ages, Jarrett Allen is worth more than Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain as well.

[clippertown]

LeBron is not the kind of guy you trade without permission. He has a lot of ties to Los Angeles, and I doubt he is open to leaving.

The Clippers may have an opportunity here to get Bron and Bronny to add to their core and really compete.

LAC OUT = Zubac / Powell / Mann / Bones
LAL OUT = Bron / Bronny

This is a trade that can only happen in the offseason, but it would give the Lakers a legit center and another elite scorer to put next to Luka. Mann and Bones would also be solid backups in needed positions. For the Clippers, could a team of Harden / Dunn / LBJ / Kawhi / Eubanks (or Ben Simmons if they get him on the buy-out market) win it all? It would definitely be fun to watch.

[Karmaloop]

LeBron is not the kind of guy you trade without permission. He has a lot of ties to Los Angeles, and I doubt he is open to leaving.

The Clippers may have an opportunity here to get Bron and Bronny to add to their core and really compete.

LAC OUT = Zubac / Powell / Mann / Bones
LAL OUT = Bron / Bronny

This is a trade that can only happen in the offseason, but it would give the Lakers a legit center and another elite scorer to put next to Luka. Mann and Bones would also be solid backups in needed positions. For the Clippers, could a team of Harden / Dunn / LBJ / Kawhi / Eubanks (or Ben Simmons if they get him on the buy-out market) win it all? It would definitely be fun to watch.

Two things, I seriously doubt the Lakers are trading LeBron to the Clippers on sheer principle. Secondly, LeBron isn't going to go play with the corpse of Kawhi especially after he spurned him once before.

[NYG]

It's the Warriors or Lakers for LeBron IMO

[Hugi Mancura]

Miami IN: LeBron + Bronny
Miami out: Butler and 2030 1:st round pick

Lakers IN: Butler and Kessler
Lakers OUT: LeBron, Cam Reddish, remove 1-4 from 2027 pick and 2029 1:st round pick

Utah IN: Cam Reddish and those 3 picks
Utah OUT: Kessler

Miami might be one of the teams LeBron will be ok to be moved to.
Lakers will get Butler for couple years and the center for Luka ERA.
Utah will get two picks and restriction removal from one pick. Reddish is just there to match salaries.

[clippertown]

LeBron is not the kind of guy you trade without permission. He has a lot of ties to Los Angeles, and I doubt he is open to leaving.

The Clippers may have an opportunity here to get Bron and Bronny to add to their core and really compete.

LAC OUT = Zubac / Powell / Mann / Bones
LAL OUT = Bron / Bronny

This is a trade that can only happen in the offseason, but it would give the Lakers a legit center and another elite scorer to put next to Luka. Mann and Bones would also be solid backups in needed positions. For the Clippers, could a team of Harden / Dunn / LBJ / Kawhi / Eubanks (or Ben Simmons if they get him on the buy-out market) win it all? It would definitely be fun to watch.

Two things, I seriously doubt the Lakers are trading LeBron to the Clippers on sheer principle. Secondly, LeBron isn't going to go play with the corpse of Kawhi especially after he spurned him once before.

It's now the corpse of Kawhi and the corpse of James Harden. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking LBJ is not ancient himself.

LBJ does not want to leave LA, so that kind of limits his options for a trade. I could be wrong, but who is going to trade major assets for an unhappy LBJ right now? Can you imagine how angry he will be if he is just traded like Luka was? Luka may be the better player, but he has a fraction of the real influence and if LeBron brings that influence to bear on the Lakers, it will be ugly.

Lakers could be magnanimous by allowing James to remain in his hometown till he retires. His fans would begrudgingly accept this.

[Karmaloop]

It's now the corpse of Kawhi and the corpse of James Harden. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking LBJ is not ancient himself.

LBJ does not want to leave LA, so that kind of limits his options for a trade. I could be wrong, but who is going to trade major assets for an unhappy LBJ right now? Can you imagine how angry he will be if he is just traded like Luka was? Luka may be the better player, but he has a fraction of the real influence and if LeBron brings that influence to bear on the Lakers, it will be ugly.

Lakers could be magnanimous by allowing James to remain in his hometown till he retires. His fans would begrudgingly accept this.

It was the corpse of Kawhi when we knew he had a degenerative health issues. He makes LeBron look like an iron man comparatively speaking. And Harden isn't washed, but the decrease in efficiency is a red flag. He went from a career 44% shooter from the field to 41% the last year and a half with the Clippers. But at 35 years old, his best days are behind them. The Clippers' window is pretty much slammed shut unless Kawhi finds the fountain of youth.

I don't think LeBron is going to get traded, and as I mentioned I think the only 2 options are Cleveland Golden State. But salary matching is going to be an issue for both teams. But the whole point is moot since LeBron won't waive his NTC.

[Daddy 801]

Think the only (realistic) trading partners for LeBron is Golden State and Cleveland.

In general I agree. Only other teams I could even potentially see LeBron saying yes to would be NY and Spurs.

[AingesBurner]

Miami IN: LeBron + Bronny
Miami out: Butler and 2030 1:st round pick

Lakers IN: Butler and Kessler
Lakers OUT: LeBron, Cam Reddish, remove 1-4 from 2027 pick and 2029 1:st round pick

Utah IN: Cam Reddish and those 3 picks
Utah OUT: Kessler

Miami might be one of the teams LeBron will be ok to be moved to.
Lakers will get Butler for couple years and the center for Luka ERA.
Utah will get two picks and restriction removal from one pick. Reddish is just there to match salaries.

Utah says no.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

I know lebron is probably worth less than Jarrett allen, but I think Cleveland does that to get 2 real title runs.

Allen + Levert + strus
For
Lebron + knecht + 2031 1st

Luka gets his big man
Lebron goes back to Cleveland to end his career with another ring.

Think every team would prefer LeBron, a first and knecht over Allen

[clippertown]

It's now the corpse of Kawhi and the corpse of James Harden. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking LBJ is not ancient himself.

LBJ does not want to leave LA, so that kind of limits his options for a trade. I could be wrong, but who is going to trade major assets for an unhappy LBJ right now? Can you imagine how angry he will be if he is just traded like Luka was? Luka may be the better player, but he has a fraction of the real influence and if LeBron brings that influence to bear on the Lakers, it will be ugly.

Lakers could be magnanimous by allowing James to remain in his hometown till he retires. His fans would begrudgingly accept this.

It was the corpse of Kawhi when we knew he had a degenerative health issues. He makes LeBron look like an iron man comparatively speaking. And Harden isn't washed, but the decrease in efficiency is a red flag. He went from a career 44% shooter from the field to 41% the last year and a half with the Clippers. But at 35 years old, his best days are behind them. The Clippers' window is pretty much slammed shut unless Kawhi finds the fountain of youth.

I don't think LeBron is going to get traded, and as I mentioned I think the only 2 options are Cleveland Golden State. But salary matching is going to be an issue for both teams. But the whole point is moot since LeBron won't waive his NTC.

Come on - please. Kawhi is not washed. I know its fun to pick on his pressure-cooked knees but in reality, he is one of the best players in the world - and when he is hitting his stride, is still top 10 elite. He is healthy right now, and that is all that matters.

I believe that LeBron does not want be anywhere but Los Angeles and that he will not want to be remembered as Luka's sidekick. It won't be long before the situation gets toxic. The Clippers may be the only team LBJ willingly waives his NTC for.

[Karmaloop]

Come on - please. Kawhi is not washed. I know its fun to pick on his pressure-cooked knees but in reality, he is one of the best players in the world - and when he is hitting his stride, is still top 10 elite. He is healthy right now, and that is all that matters.

I believe that LeBron does not want be anywhere but Los Angeles and that he will not want to be remembered as Luka's sidekick. It won't be long before the situation gets toxic. The Clippers may be the only team LBJ willingly waives his NTC for.

He's not washed, but he's pretty damn close. If you're lucky, you get about 50% of the games out of Kawhi at this point in his career including playoffs. Until he shows the ability to consistently stay healthy, he's an injury concern and we know how much Anthony Davis was knocked for those injury concerns.

And the 2nd paragraph is nothing but wishful thinking. LeBron was very open about this being AD's team prior to the trade. There's no reason to believe that he's going to feel differently about Luka than he did about AD. And you talk about him only wanting to go the Clippers? He didn't even get him a visit the last time he was FA that was looking for another franchise.

[AingesBurner]

Not advocating for it, but LBJ for Jaylen Brown. Which teams has to add value?

Why would the Celtics do this? LA doesn’t have enough picks.

[clippertown]

Come on - please. Kawhi is not washed. I know its fun to pick on his pressure-cooked knees but in reality, he is one of the best players in the world - and when he is hitting his stride, is still top 10 elite. He is healthy right now, and that is all that matters.

I believe that LeBron does not want be anywhere but Los Angeles and that he will not want to be remembered as Luka's sidekick. It won't be long before the situation gets toxic. The Clippers may be the only team LBJ willingly waives his NTC for.

He's not washed, but he's pretty damn close. If you're lucky, you get about 50% of the games out of Kawhi at this point in his career including playoffs. Until he shows the ability to consistently stay healthy, he's an injury concern and we know how much Anthony Davis was knocked for those injury concerns.

And the 2nd paragraph is nothing but wishful thinking. LeBron was very open about this being AD's team prior to the trade. There's no reason to believe that he's going to feel differently about Luka than he did about AD. And you talk about him only wanting to go the Clippers? He didn't even get him a visit the last time he was FA that was looking for another franchise.

I am talking about LeBron not willing to leave his fantastic mansion in the Brentwood Hills, not willing to leave his family and with an NTC, he doesn't have too. The guy is a billionaire - he likes his lifestyle. Name another team in Los Angeles he could go too?

As for Kawhi, injuries happen. As long as he delivers in the critical moments, that's all that really matters. Clips are just as good as the Lakers right now, and Kawhi hasn't even been playing. Lakers are not contenders - Clippers with LBJ just might be.

[Knicks365247]

I place odds LeBron winds up in a Warriors jersey before the trade deadline at 30%.

This is despite him saying that he wants to remain with the Lakers through the trade deadline.
as LeBron has never lied before (LOL)