BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas

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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#21 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 1:57 am

JKiddy wrote:Nets are not selling Cam Thomas now (as far as has been out there). Plus, the 2029 LAL 1st isn't that valuable anymore and would not be enough.

Aside from Luka what do the LAkers have?
In case you don't recall, Luka was bad enough just 2 years ago to get a top 10 pick (Lively).
In four years he is 30, his metabolism will slow, and he won't be getting any healthier.
So yea, if I am Dallas that 2029 pick I am holding it unless I am getting an all-star back.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#22 » by Papi_swav » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:23 am

Na I believe CamT can do better. The 1st is good but Hardy is ehh and CamT is a legit proven scorer whether he starts or not
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#23 » by DarkXaero » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:24 am

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Cam Thomas is a better scorer than Hardy, but he's also a ball stopper who pouts if he doesn't get his shots up.

Hardy fills a 15mpg microwave bench role just fine with better shooting percentages than Cam Thomas. He's improved every year, moves the ball within the offense, and tries on defense.

I don't think either Thomas or Hardy fit well next to Kyrie/Dinwiddie, so I don't think either of them are going to see significant minutes. If you feel like Thomas won't pout and will commit to winning, sure, trade Hardy + a small asset for him. But Grimes is a winning player already and the 1st is valuable. Not giving up either for Cam Thomas.
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Better 3p% than Thomas. I misread that 2p% numbers.
Cam Thomas has more than double the 3pt volume of Hardy, and averages ~25 PPG on ~60% TS% this season compared to Hardy's 8.4 PPG on 54.5% TS%. I don't like Cam Thomas but the gap between him and Hardy is massive.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#24 » by DarkXaero » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:26 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:LeVert is neither a better, nor more versatile player than Cam Thomas.

lol, Thomas can literally only do one thing.

You definitely haven’t watched the Nets much at all the last 40 games of last season into this year.

His all around game has steadily improved. I was exceptionally critical of him his first couple years, but he has come a long way.

What exactly does LeVert do so well besides forcing bad shots and scoring inefficiently? I’m not really buying this small sample size year 9 age 30 renaissance outlier season on extremely low volume for him either.

I say all this as a LeVert fan, still have 2 of his BK jerseys, but just the facts, ma’am.
I'm not a Cam Thomas fan at all and while he has improved, I'll disagree on him coming a long way in the main weaknesses in his game. That being said, yeah, the Levert overrating needs to stop. We know who Levert is. A 30 year old having an outlier season off the bench isn't the same as a 23 year old averaging ~25 PPG on ~60 TS%.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#25 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:48 am

DarkXaero wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:lol, Thomas can literally only do one thing.

You definitely haven’t watched the Nets much at all the last 40 games of last season into this year.

His all around game has steadily improved. I was exceptionally critical of him his first couple years, but he has come a long way.

What exactly does LeVert do so well besides forcing bad shots and scoring inefficiently? I’m not really buying this small sample size year 9 age 30 renaissance outlier season on extremely low volume for him either.

I say all this as a LeVert fan, still have 2 of his BK jerseys, but just the facts, ma’am.
I'm not a Cam Thomas fan at all and while he has improved, I'll disagree on him coming a long way in the main weaknesses in his game. That being said, yeah, the Levert overrating needs to stop. We know who Levert is. A 30 year old having an outlier season off the bench isn't the same as a 23 year old averaging ~25 PPG on ~60 TS%.

I’m not trying to claim he’s suddenly a lockdown defender, or reliable primary ball handler; but he has removed a lot of the ballstopping from his game while improving his vision and playmaking. He has just become a more willing ball mover. And he has improved defensively, both effort and awareness.

But he also doesn’t need to become a great all around player, just make incremental increases in other areas while improving his efficiency as a scorer and you have a really impactful big minute player, whether as a starter or sixth man.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#26 » by mcfly1204 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:55 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:LeVert is neither a better, nor more versatile player than Cam Thomas.

lol, Thomas can literally only do one thing.

You definitely haven’t watched the Nets much at all the last 40 games of last season into this year.

His all around game has steadily improved. I was exceptionally critical of him his first couple years, but he has come a long way.

What exactly does LeVert do so well besides forcing bad shots and scoring inefficiently? I’m not really buying this small sample size year 9 age 30 renaissance outlier season on extremely low volume for him either.

I say all this as a LeVert fan, still have 2 of his BK jerseys, but just the facts, ma’am.

LeVert is the better passer/distributor, rebounder, and defender. He's easier to fit onto a roster, and doesn't complain.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#27 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Feb 4, 2025 3:07 am

mcfly1204 wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:lol, Thomas can literally only do one thing.

You definitely haven’t watched the Nets much at all the last 40 games of last season into this year.

His all around game has steadily improved. I was exceptionally critical of him his first couple years, but he has come a long way.

What exactly does LeVert do so well besides forcing bad shots and scoring inefficiently? I’m not really buying this small sample size year 9 age 30 renaissance outlier season on extremely low volume for him either.

I say all this as a LeVert fan, still have 2 of his BK jerseys, but just the facts, ma’am.

LeVert is the better passer/distributor, rebounder, and defender. He's easier to fit onto a roster, and doesn't complain.

I don’t know he’s better at any of that other than defense and rebounding, and honestly, he’s often a major ballstopper/chucker/bad shot taker and questionable decision maker. I watch a decent amount of Cavs games and he is a guy who often takes the rest of the team out of the flow of the offense, especially in the half court.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#28 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:02 am

mcfly1204 wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:If Dallas wants a 6th man, they can call Cleveland about LeVert. He's a better, more versatile player than Thomas, and likely comes at a lower cost.

LeVert is neither a better, nor more versatile player than Cam Thomas.

lol, Thomas can literally only do one thing.

What one thing does levert do?
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#29 » by Decipher » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:11 am

mcfly1204 wrote:If Dallas wants a 6th man, they can call Cleveland about LeVert. He's a better, more versatile player than Thomas, and likely comes at a lower cost.


LeVert played for the Nets and Thomas is a significantly better player
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#30 » by Mavrelous » Tue Feb 4, 2025 8:39 am

Cam Thomas is an excellemt 6th man, Hardy is a meh 12th man, I'd rather not pay unprotected 1st for Thomas but I'd rather pay it than going into Feb 7th with this guard rotation.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#31 » by mcfly1204 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 12:00 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:LeVert is neither a better, nor more versatile player than Cam Thomas.

lol, Thomas can literally only do one thing.

What one thing does levert do?

He can pass, defend, and rebound, while also providing some scoring. LeVert is a versatile player at this point in his career.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#32 » by jayjaysee » Tue Feb 4, 2025 12:12 pm

I’d pay a first for Cam Thomas if the Venetian guys were good dumping Klay later or spending the money…

Let’s call it..

2029 LAL first top 10 protected (if not top 8 Dallas 2030 first, top 6 Dallas 2031 protected)

Good compromise? Throw in the Philly 2nd?

If you’d rather Dallas’ 2025 first, just let Dallas put top 6 protection on it..
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#33 » by JeffFosters » Tue Feb 4, 2025 4:08 pm

OutsidetheNBA wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
OutsidetheNBA wrote:
Cam Thomas is a better scorer than Hardy, but he's also a ball stopper who pouts if he doesn't get his shots up.

Hardy fills a 15mpg microwave bench role just fine with better shooting percentages than Cam Thomas. He's improved every year, moves the ball within the offense, and tries on defense.

I don't think either Thomas or Hardy fit well next to Kyrie/Dinwiddie, so I don't think either of them are going to see significant minutes. If you feel like Thomas won't pout and will commit to winning, sure, trade Hardy + a small asset for him. But Grimes is a winning player already and the 1st is valuable. Not giving up either for Cam Thomas.
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Better 3p% than Thomas. I misread that 2p% numbers.


When you factor in the types of looks both guys get it’s very, very clear that Thomas is the much better player. Cam Thomas would be great in Dallas but the free agency issue makes it tricky.
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Re: BKN - DAL - Cam Thomas 

Post#34 » by drchaos » Tue Feb 4, 2025 5:19 pm

I don't think Cam Thomas is going anywhere.

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