Giannis future

[LarsV8]

OKC fans: does your offer include Chet or Jalen?

HOU fans: does your offer include Amen or Reed?

I think you mean Sengun, and the answer is yes.

If a Giannis auction went up, we would offer Sengun + 4 or 5 juicy picks.

[ecuhus1981]

OKC fans: does your offer include Chet or Jalen?

HOU fans: does your offer include Amen or Reed?

One of these things is not like the others.

You are correct, and I'm not drawing an equivalency to those pairs of players. The sweetener packages like future 1sts attached from HOU for either of their guys would need to be better than the incentives OKC would l need to attach. I'm simply asking both fanbases a specific question about their current young players.

[ecuhus1981]

OKC fans: does your offer include Chet or Jalen?

HOU fans: does your offer include Amen or Reed?

I think you mean Sengun, and the answer is yes.

If a Giannis auction went up, we would offer Sengun + 4 or 5 juicy picks.

This is the type of engagement I'm seeking, thank you.

Do you think Houston would rather give Sengun than Amen? Because I think Milwaukee would rather have Amen, just my opinion.

[LarsV8]

OKC fans: does your offer include Chet or Jalen?

HOU fans: does your offer include Amen or Reed?

I think you mean Sengun, and the answer is yes.

If a Giannis auction went up, we would offer Sengun + 4 or 5 juicy picks.

This is the type of engagement I'm seeking, thank you.

Do you think Houston would rather give Sengun than Amen? Because I think Milwaukee would rather have Amen, just my opinion.

I think Houston would rather trade Sengun in a Giannis package.

From our standpoint, I think it is as easy as if you are trading for a premiere PG, then its FVV going out, if its a SG, its Jalen Green, a big, then its Sengun.

I honestly don't see any scenario where Amen is traded.

[Djh7475]

I can only see a few teams offering the type of package that could land Giannis in an open bidding war:

OKC: Something around Chet or JDub (probably Chet), Cason, filler and a mountain of picks
Not a perfect fit between SGA and Giannis with them both needing the ball in their hands a ton, but I think they take that gamble without blinking

Houston: Something around Amen or Sengun (probably Amen), Reed, Jalen, and a mountain of picks
They’d really need to decline VV’s team option and find a way to acquire a 3rd star in FA or trade to build around Giannis

NOLA: Would need the top pick in this draft, someone willing to pay a hefty sum for Zion and/or Herb, and would probably have to include Trey Murphy and/or Messi along with the Bucks pick back and every 1st ever - don’t think this leaves them in a better position than the Bucks are

Charlotte: Would need the top pick in this draft, BMiller, and for Mark Williams to be able to pass a physical (if he could fetch a return similar to what the Lakers offered - would help make a deal) plus all their future 1sts

OKC makes for the easiest transaction and sends him West. Like several others, they seem like the most likely destination. I personally think Charlotte would be interesting since it’d send him to another small market but he’d have a young co-star joining him. Lamelo would need to adjust his game playing with Giannis, but they’d be fun to watch.

[Dez]

Also, I feel like Giannis will leverage his way to Chicago. I don't understand the connection, but he keeps bringing up or alluding to the Bulls when times are tough in Milwaukee. I don't know that they could make a competitive offer other than a war chest of future picks, but they're my guess at his next destination if he forces his way out.

He'll play for Chicago.

Problem is it'll be when he's 45.

[Slim Charless]

OKC fans: does your offer include Chet or Jalen?

HOU fans: does your offer include Amen or Reed?

One of these things is not like the others.

I'm guessing OKC would have to send Chet, big for big. I think if I'm MIL, I'd almost rather a Jalen and Hartenstein combo. Chet has injury issues. Plus I think you can push for more picks if you let them keep Chet as opposed to Jalen.

[JayMKE]

Only way Giannis ever gets traded is if he demands out and nobody demands out to play in Oklahoma City. Chet isn’t even positive value to me let alone some attractive piece, does not have an NBA body and not in a freak way like Zion.

OKC, Utah, Houston poopoo platters won’t get them ****.

Giannis can go out like Dirk if need be, crappy mid picks and mid players aren’t getting you a top 5 player

[Ell Curry]

I can only see a few teams offering the type of package that could land Giannis in an open bidding war:

OKC: Something around Chet or JDub (probably Chet), Cason, filler and a mountain of picks
Not a perfect fit between SGA and Giannis with them both needing the ball in their hands a ton, but I think they take that gamble without blinking

Houston: Something around Amen or Sengun (probably Amen), Reed, Jalen, and a mountain of picks
They’d really need to decline VV’s team option and find a way to acquire a 3rd star in FA or trade to build around Giannis

NOLA: Would need the top pick in this draft, someone willing to pay a hefty sum for Zion and/or Herb, and would probably have to include Trey Murphy and/or Messi along with the Bucks pick back and every 1st ever - don’t think this leaves them in a better position than the Bucks are

Charlotte: Would need the top pick in this draft, BMiller, and for Mark Williams to be able to pass a physical (if he could fetch a return similar to what the Lakers offered - would help make a deal) plus all their future 1sts

OKC makes for the easiest transaction and sends him West. Like several others, they seem like the most likely destination. I personally think Charlotte would be interesting since it’d send him to another small market but he’d have a young co-star joining him. Lamelo would need to adjust his game playing with Giannis, but they’d be fun to watch.

I think there's more teams. Toronto can do Barnes and their picks (then move Poeltl for a passable shooting big), Orlando can do Franz or Paolo, Black and their picks. Memphis could do Ja or Bane + Edey + GG Jackson + picks, and having JJJ and Giannis as a 4/5 combo would be terrifying. There are combos.

He won't go to Portland or New Orleans, but they might decide on it since they can send Milwaukee their picks back, and someone like Sengun going to New Orleans for those picks makes sense for them if they leave this draft with say Harper or Edgecombe at guard, with Murphy and Herb on the wing, Sengun at the 5 backed up by Missi would seem to fit nicely as a core going forward.

[vxmike]

Also, I feel like Giannis will leverage his way to Chicago. I don't understand the connection, but he keeps bringing up or alluding to the Bulls when times are tough in Milwaukee. I don't know that they could make a competitive offer other than a war chest of future picks, but they're my guess at his next destination if he forces his way out.

Getting traded to the Bulls as a tier 1 star has to be like being sent to the NBA’s version of the Gulag. They have zero assets to even obtain Giannis let alone build a team around him. Plus they have a super cheap owner who won’t break the bank to contend.

[Buckfan76]

As a Bucks fan IF Giannis asks out as already stated I would think Houston or OKC. I would also attach Pat Connaughton with Giannis.

With Houston: Sengun, Reed, and Whitmore or Eason and 4 or 5 1st round picks.

With OKC: Hartenstein, Jalen Williams, C.Wallace, and I.Joe plus picks for Giannis and Connaughton. Bucks would trade I.Joe to Port for Timelord.

[DowJones]

I can be talked into Garland and Mobley for Giannis and Kuzma if things go south for Cleveland in the playoffs. This assumes Giannis is ok with it and is up for extending in Cleveland. Mitchell-Strus-Hunter-Giannis-Allen would be nasty on defense with Kuzma/Wade/Jerome/Okoro/Merrill off the bench. I’m not saying I would make the deal as a Cavs fan, but I would consider it.

[Dan Z]

Giannis has been as loyal as a basketball player can be.

Bucks have given him everything a basketball organisation can give.

Obviously after the Luka trade anything is possible. But Giannis/Bucks look as tight as Curry/Warriors. Nothing to watch here.

If he asked to be traded (I don't think he will) then what happens to Lillard?

[165bows]

I think you mean Sengun, and the answer is yes.

If a Giannis auction went up, we would offer Sengun + 4 or 5 juicy picks.

This is the type of engagement I'm seeking, thank you.

Do you think Houston would rather give Sengun than Amen? Because I think Milwaukee would rather have Amen, just my opinion.

I think Houston would rather trade Sengun in a Giannis package.

From our standpoint, I think it is as easy as if you are trading for a premiere PG, then its FVV going out, if its a SG, its Jalen Green, a big, then its Sengun.

I honestly don't see any scenario where Amen is traded.

Don't they occupy a really similar niche on a team, ie, Giannis and A. Thompson? Not really taking about the value here among the various guys above, just seems like fit-wise wouldn't that be tough on the offensive side?

[LarsV8]

This is the type of engagement I'm seeking, thank you.

Do you think Houston would rather give Sengun than Amen? Because I think Milwaukee would rather have Amen, just my opinion.

I think Houston would rather trade Sengun in a Giannis package.

From our standpoint, I think it is as easy as if you are trading for a premiere PG, then its FVV going out, if its a SG, its Jalen Green, a big, then its Sengun.

I honestly don't see any scenario where Amen is traded.

Don't they occupy a really similar niche on a team, ie, Giannis and A. Thompson? Not really taking about the value here among the various guys above, just seems like fit-wise wouldn't that be tough on the offensive side?

I see more fit issues with Sengun alongside Giannis than I do Amen alongside Giannis.

It's not a perfect fit, but Amen is a bit of a unicorn who can slide in just about anywhere. He just finds a way to impact the game.

[Slim Charless]

Giannis has been as loyal as a basketball player can be.

Bucks have given him everything a basketball organisation can give.

Obviously after the Luka trade anything is possible. But Giannis/Bucks look as tight as Curry/Warriors. Nothing to watch here.

If he asked to be traded (I don't think he will) then what happens to Lillard?

Orlando needs a PG.

[wegotthabeet]

Only way Giannis ever gets traded is if he demands out and nobody demands out to play in Oklahoma City. Chet isn’t even positive value to me let alone some attractive piece, does not have an NBA body and not in a freak way like Zion.

OKC, Utah, Houston poopoo platters won’t get them ****.

Giannis can go out like Dirk if need be, crappy mid picks and mid players aren’t getting you a top 5 player

How do you feel about paying him the max at 33 and beyond? Dirk took way less to be a lifer. I think they need to consider trading him this summer. He might walk as a free agent honestly. Especially if they aren’t offering him a five year max.

[tmorgan]

Wish Detroit could get in on this, but we don’t have the non-Cade assets. If Houston balks on Amen and that’s who the Bucks want, I’m sure we’d trade them Ausar, though.

Ausar, Ivey, Tobias, and the picks/swaps we can deal.