Hauser to MIL w/ BKN

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Melton is clearly the best defender of all the guys listed at the time of their trades you are hoping to cite. By far. Like, he was a nearly all defense player for a bit there.

Hauser is the best 3 point shooter, though. But also, in hindsight, none of those teams should have dealt a first for those players, so it reinforces why Hauser shouldn’t return a first yet, either.

“Hoping” to cite? Why are you so weirdly passive aggressive about this take?

….friend, why do you think anything is aggressive there? Nothing was, is, or will be between us, at least from my end.

Melton’s a 6’2” SG who got one vote one year for all defense, and is a really limited guy based on his size. Hauser’s not only an elite +/- guy he’s an extremely versatile guy on D at 6’8” who can guard both twos and threes.

Huerter as mentioned above was part of the vaunted “best offense ever” before his shooting also disappeared, and was on a much more expensive contract.

You’ve missed the real reason Hauser might not be worth a first, his early season back injury and he’s been wearing a giant fat back brace on the bench even lately.

But this “he’s worth this not that” schtick like you have some cheat book to consult is rich based on your history of arguing Celtics players value with me.

Oh, if you don’t want to discuss anything and just want to be reinforced in Celtics superiority type stuff, the Boston forum is right over there.

But, since you cited Melton, Huerter, etc. do you think those teams, in hindsight, should have paid a first for those guys? Did they prove to be worth that value?

Maybe I already answered that question? SAC got their first third seed measured in decades and all the hype of an all time team mark w their offense.

It's actually pretty funny to me how precious some people are here about first round picks considering over of the projected non-lotto picks this year have been put up in trade.

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While I think there are certain deals that Hauser could conceivably net BOS a 1st, one in which they totally clear their books of the contract isn't one of those deals.

Yeah I think Hauser is worthy of a first in the 20's on his own, but if on top of that you're expecting another team to eat bad salary that pushes it out to late 20's/early 2nd depending on the salary.

I'm surprised that on his own people don't see him as worth a late first. Elite 3 / moderate D, locked in on a deal that's around 6% of the cap. I guess there isn't really upside beyond what he is right now, but these are also his prime years so I think the floor is really high. I wouldn't expect anything with lottery uspide but if he weren't on the C's I'd give up our first without question if we could acquire him. That's obviously late 20's but I'd think there is room between there and the late teens where a team needing to surround their stars would see value in him at that price.

I'm really hoping he's not a cap casualty for us. Fits really nicely next to ball dominant stars.

BKN is getting paid a second rounder and a young player to take the extra salary. And the salary is only one year of $9.2M of Connaughton who you can play, esp on a team in their situation. What would be sufficient compensation for that? It doesn't seem like it would take that much. Obv depends on the pick. BOS own would not be worth it, 31 too much, so probably a 2026 one we get from another team.

It's all academic since I was wrong on the MIL 2027 pick, but it's not just Hauser going out from BOS.

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While I think there are certain deals that Hauser could conceivably net BOS a 1st, one in which they totally clear their books of the contract isn't one of those deals.

Yeah I think Hauser is worthy of a first in the 20's on his own, but if on top of that you're expecting another team to eat bad salary that pushes it out to late 20's/early 2nd depending on the salary.

I'm surprised that on his own people don't see him as worth a late first. Elite 3 / moderate D, locked in on a deal that's around 6% of the cap. I guess there isn't really upside beyond what he is right now, but these are also his prime years so I think the floor is really high. I wouldn't expect anything with lottery uspide but if he weren't on the C's I'd give up our first without question if we could acquire him. That's obviously late 20's but I'd think there is room between there and the late teens where a team needing to surround their stars would see value in him at that price.

I'm really hoping he's not a cap casualty for us. Fits really nicely next to ball dominant stars.

BKN is getting paid a second rounder and a young player to take the extra salary. And the salary is only one year of $9.2M of Connaughton who you can play, esp on a team in their situation. What would be sufficient compensation for that? It doesn't seem like it would take that much. Obv depends on the pick. BOS own would not be worth it, 31 too much, so probably a 2026 one we get from another team.

It's all academic since I was wrong on the MIL 2027 pick, but it's not just Hauser going out from BOS.

I was speaking generally around Hauser's value as opposed to in reference to the proposed deal.

I think Smith and a distant late 2nd isn't a bad reward at all for eating a year of Connaughton, but the price of eating money seems to have gone up in recent years. Springer at half the price and with a hint of upside cost a 2nd, Smith and a 2nd seems more than fine in my view. Which is why I'm surprised that people think Hauser wouldn't fetch a first.