Charlotte and Sac with the help of LAC/Det

[LightTheBeam]

This trade assumes Kings miss on the playoffs and keep their draft pick which would be #10/#11

Charlotte out: Lamelo
Charlotte in: Bogdan, Devin Carter, Kobe Brown, 2025 Kings 1st, 2027 Kings 1st, 2028 Kings swap, 2029 Kings 1st, 2030 Swap, 2031 Minnesota 1st

Get a decent prospect + 4 1sts + 2 swaps. Can trade Bogdan at the deadline for more value. Save a ton of money this year. Add a new top 4 draft pick and turn the team over to Flagg/Bailey/Harper + Brandon Miller.

Kings out: Demar, Devin Carter, Jval, #10/#11 in draft, 27 Kings 1st, 28 Kings swap, 29 Kings 1st, 30 Swap, 31 Minnesota 1st
Kings in: Lamelo Ball, Fontecchio

The owner refuses to tank, so at least go all in somehow. After the deal we need to continue filling out the roster, but you can squint and see maybe the start of a team.
Lamelo - Keon - Lavine - Keegan - Sabonis
Monk - Fontecchio

Clippers out: Kobe Brown, Bogdan
Clippers in: Demar
Turn Bogdan into Demar, seems like a no brainer for a team that could use help offensively.

Detroit out: Fonteccio
Detroit in: JVal

Detroit is playing great basketball. Add another big who can score and rebound and brings veteran experience for free.

[HornetJail]

I'd be surprised to see a full-scale roster meltdown of the Hornets right now. can we at least attempt to put together a roster for the first time since 2022 before we do?

If we are going that route... I'd expect at least 1 more significant asset. At least one young player worth something, and change out that 2028 swap for a 2032 to give us a chance to become decent again before swaps start. Don't hate gambling on the Kings staying mediocre though, the West is stacked.

[ReggiesKnicks]

If Charlotte moves on from LaMelo, I expect a Towns like deal where they are trading him for multiple starting caliber players and future assets.

I have a hard time seeing them trading LaMelo for a ton of assets concentrated in the future. At that point you might as well hang onto LaMelo and hope his injury problems subside and he reaches his full-ceiling.

[HornetJail]

If Charlotte moves on from LaMelo, I expect a Towns like deal where they are trading him for multiple starting caliber players and future assets.

I have a hard time seeing them trading LaMelo for a ton of assets concentrated in the future. At that point you might as well hang onto LaMelo and hope his injury problems subside and he reaches his full-ceiling.

weird comparison because the Wolves got a whole lot of nothing out of Towns. DDV is a quality role player and nothing beyond that, Randle isn't good and may just be a cap relief piece if he opts out, and the Wolves got one heavily protected pick that relied on a 14-68 team making the playoffs in order to convey (and it somehow is... congrats). I'm sticking with LaMelo in most scenarios this year, but if I have to trade him, give me a picks package over that slop 10 times out of 10.

[theBigLip]

Why do the Pistons want Valanciunas? It’s an extra year of salary than Fontecchio, but more importantly, they already have Duren and Stewart that are playing good and much younger. Not interested.

[LightTheBeam]

I'd be surprised to see a full-scale roster meltdown of the Hornets right now. can we at least attempt to put together a roster for the first time since 2022 before we do?

If we are going that route... I'd expect at least 1 more significant asset. At least one young player worth something, and change out that 2028 swap for a 2032 to give us a chance to become decent again before swaps start. Don't hate gambling on the Kings staying mediocre though, the West is stacked.

It's really just a bet against the Kings, so glad you caught onto that part lol. Let's be real, the team I mentioned above probably has 2-3 late seeding playoffs in them. And Kings are a top 5 team "I'd like to own their picks".

I hear not moving Lamelo. I just think Charlotte may be better off drafting a star and pairing them with Miller. Clearing out Ball/Bridges.

[ReggiesKnicks]

If Charlotte moves on from LaMelo, I expect a Towns like deal where they are trading him for multiple starting caliber players and future assets.

I have a hard time seeing them trading LaMelo for a ton of assets concentrated in the future. At that point you might as well hang onto LaMelo and hope his injury problems subside and he reaches his full-ceiling.

weird comparison because the Wolves got a whole lot of nothing out of Towns. DDV is a quality role player and nothing beyond that, Randle isn't good and may just be a cap relief piece if he opts out, and the Wolves got one heavily protected pick that relied on a 14-68 team making the playoffs in order to convey (and it somehow is... congrats). I'm sticking with LaMelo in most scenarios this year, but if I have to trade him, give me a picks package over that slop 10 times out of 10.

Randle was a 2-time All-NBA player and a low-end all-star. You can say he isn't that good but he was a Top 50-ish player and helps teams win games.

DDV is a low-end starter (That's what, 20 Million AAV?) on a below MLE level deal.

I think my point isn't to read apples to apples here but understand that I am saying you don't trade LaMelo for assets 2, 4 and 6 years away. Charlotte trades LaMelo if they want to be relevant in the near-term and have star potential amongst their other prospects.

I expected the pick to convey eventually. Detroit wasn't going to be bad forever and if you ever watched Cade last year you could tell he was a winning player in a bad situation, which isn't how I view LaMelo.

I disagree with a picks package but I also, in all liklihood just view Charlotte's situation differently than yours and team building differently.

[chrbal]

Is it weird that for roster balance I’d rather keep Simone?

[DetroitDon15]

Why do the Pistons want Valanciunas? It’s an extra year of salary than Fontecchio, but more importantly, they already have Duren and Stewart that are playing good and much younger. Not interested.

Spot on. Pistons need solid defense in the paint. I don’t see Jonas being that guy. If Detroit got an asset of value int the deal outside of cash or second rounder (s), I might reconsider the idea.

[DetroitSho]

Is it weird that for roster balance I’d rather keep Simone?

Naw it ain't. Weird would be trading Simone for Val.

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[Kalamazoo317]

Why do the Pistons want Valanciunas? It’s an extra year of salary than Fontecchio, but more importantly, they already have Duren and Stewart that are playing good and much younger. Not interested.

Spot on. Pistons need solid defense in the paint. I don’t see Jonas being that guy. If Detroit got an asset of value int the deal outside of cash or second rounder (s), I might reconsider the idea.

No we don't. Beefstew is one of the best rim protectors in the league and Duren's trending up on defense since Ausar has been starting and providing a good point of attack defender. Our overall defense has been quite excellent as of late.

And in response to the OP, nor do we need veteran depth at center, given we have BBall Paul Reed as our third center. Val would be a waste of a roster spot, waste of cap space, and waste of flexibility.

Honestly we don't need anything at the moment. If someone really wants something from us, they better be prepared to bowl us over.

[tmorgan]

Man, we gettin’ cocky in our Detroit fandom these days, aren’t we?

Myself included.

[Kalamazoo317]

Man, we gettin’ cocky in our Detroit fandom these days, aren’t we?

Myself included.

You love to see it.

But, seriously, nothing wrong with appreciating it when things are good. Not saying we're going to win the championship this year or anything, but we're young and our best path to being fully competitive is continued internal improvement, not shaking things up in random trades.

[OxAndFox]

Man, we gettin’ cocky in our Detroit fandom these days, aren’t we?

Myself included.

You love to see it.

But, seriously, nothing wrong with appreciating it when things are good. Not saying we're going to win the championship this year or anything, but we're young and our best path to being fully competitive is continued internal improvement, not shaking things up in random trades.

NO. You WILL sit in the corner like the 22-23 Sacramento Kings.

[MasterIchiro]

Hard to imagine, we know. But we bottomed out this season and will transition to buying using a surplus of (7) 1st round picks eligible for trade. These picks will be attached to the following contracts before LaMelo is dealt:

Nurkic
Josh Green
Grant Williams
Josh Okogie

The coach would be fired before LaMelo is dealt.

[Kalamazoo317]

Man, we gettin’ cocky in our Detroit fandom these days, aren’t we?

Myself included.

You love to see it.

But, seriously, nothing wrong with appreciating it when things are good. Not saying we're going to win the championship this year or anything, but we're young and our best path to being fully competitive is continued internal improvement, not shaking things up in random trades.

NO. You WILL sit in the corner like the 22-23 Sacramento Kings.

Yeah, no, we're not going to trade away our all-star point guard just because y'all did it twice, sorry.

[OGSactownballer]

Not interested in injured all the time Ball and especially at that ridiculous price.