Thoughts, Rumors and Random Part 16: The Redux: The Remix: Electric Boogaloo

[zimpy27]

How to destroy a roster

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Well they have had some of the worst injury luck I've seen in a manner of weeks

[Mavrelous]

How to destroy a roster

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Well they have had some of the worst injury luck I've seen in a manner of weeks

Yes, but they killed their flexibility trading healthy player for an injired one while leaving 0 room below the Apron.
They also miss handled PK ankle sprain, not exactly rare for Mavs training staff to those who follow the team.

[jayjaysee]

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Well they have had some of the worst injury luck I've seen in a manner of weeks

Injuries do happen. And Dallas has been very unlucky obviously.

And 9/10 times if they had dumped Powell in one of their deadline deals, it wouldn’t even have mattered.. Buyout guys rarely make an impact honestly.

But at least there would be bodies on the court? and maybe it would’ve been Ben in Dallas and some center instead of rotating 10 days..

Or if you did fall in love with Kelly or Kessler or even Brown, you could’ve offered them a long term deal as the team didn’t use the full MLE.

Without the Luka trade, I think that decision to not leave space would be chalked up to inexperience versus incompetence..

[babyjax13]

At this point the Suns should just fire Bud now and see if a midseason coaching change can help team morale? I still think he is. good coach, but it isn't working.

[SkyHook]

Minor deal yesterday.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/jazz-sign-g-jaden-springer-multi-year-contract-2025-03-03/

[jayjaysee]

Just a random bad KD idea?

Bridges, Grant or Green (CLT’s choice so Grant), Jonas, Sac 2026 first, SAS 2027 first to Phoenix
LaVine to CLT
KD to Sac

Phoenix gets a couple warm bodies and two firsts.

CLT does it if they draft a forward.

Sac goes with Sabonis/KD/Murray/Demar/Monk.

No idea what value goes into the CLT swap but think it’s minor either way?

[Texas Chuck]

At this point the Suns should just fire Bud now and see if a midseason coaching change can help team morale? I still think he is. good coach, but it isn't working.

I mean you have Beal that knows they desperately wanted to trade him and KD whom they openly shopped. That's going to be an issue separate from the coach. If they want to coddle Booker, then sure fire Bud who told him to concentrate more on playing and less on yapping, but I wouldn't. Booker isn't good enough to carry you alone so if he asks out too, I doubt the Suns are broken hearted and honestly even with the picks owed might be the right approach.

I don't see how any of this is really on Bud. It's a badly constructed roster and they shopped two of their max guys on top of that.

[HornetJail]

Just a random bad KD idea?

Bridges, Grant or Green (CLT’s choice so Grant), Jonas, Sac 2026 first, SAS 2027 first to Phoenix
LaVine to CLT
KD to Sac

Phoenix gets a couple warm bodies and two firsts.

CLT does it if they draft a forward.

Sac goes with Sabonis/KD/Murray/Demar/Monk.

i think i'd roll with Bridges over LaVine, but it's close. LaVine's shot creation would help, but the contract and injury downside is rough.

Also I'd trade Green long before I'd trade Grant personally. Might have a bit more value around the league (read: less negative), but we already have a bunch of slightly varying versions of Green (Okogie, Jeffries) so he really isn't needed. Grant was pretty critical to the team before his knee went bye bye

[Godaddycurse]

Just a random bad KD idea?

Bridges, Grant or Green (CLT’s choice so Grant), Jonas, Sac 2026 first, SAS 2027 first to Phoenix
LaVine to CLT
KD to Sac

Phoenix gets a couple warm bodies and two firsts.

CLT does it if they draft a forward.

Sac goes with Sabonis/KD/Murray/Demar/Monk.

No idea what value goes into the CLT swap but think it’s minor either way?

I kinda like

Monk, Grant, Okogie, Jonas, 2 1sts to Phoenix
Demar to Charlotte
KD to SAC

phoenix get a starting PG and 2 1sts
Charlotte get a floor raiser
sacramento get a star

Sabonis/KD/Murray/Lavine/Ellis

[Texas Chuck]

Just a random bad KD idea?

Bridges, Grant or Green (CLT’s choice so Grant), Jonas, Sac 2026 first, SAS 2027 first to Phoenix
LaVine to CLT
KD to Sac

Phoenix gets a couple warm bodies and two firsts.

CLT does it if they draft a forward.

Sac goes with Sabonis/KD/Murray/Demar/Monk.

i think i'd roll with Bridges over LaVine, but it's close. LaVine's shot creation would help, but the contract and injury downside is rough.

Also I'd trade Green long before I'd trade Grant personally. Might have a bit more value around the league (read: less negative), but we already have a bunch of slightly varying versions of Green (Okogie, Jeffries) so he really isn't needed. Grant was pretty critical to the team before his knee went bye bye

LaVine feels like a no-brainer over Bridges. Agree with you positionally on Williams if you think his injury won't be an ongoing concern.

The one selling point for Green on a team like Charlotte is for all his flaws, he always plays with maximum effort and Charlotte needs all those guys they can get their hands on. Coaches need to be able to bench guys and point at guys like Josh Green and say he's playing and you are not because he is playing hard and you are mailing in too many possessions.

[HornetJail]

Just a random bad KD idea?

Bridges, Grant or Green (CLT’s choice so Grant), Jonas, Sac 2026 first, SAS 2027 first to Phoenix
LaVine to CLT
KD to Sac

Phoenix gets a couple warm bodies and two firsts.

CLT does it if they draft a forward.

Sac goes with Sabonis/KD/Murray/Demar/Monk.

i think i'd roll with Bridges over LaVine, but it's close. LaVine's shot creation would help, but the contract and injury downside is rough.

Also I'd trade Green long before I'd trade Grant personally. Might have a bit more value around the league (read: less negative), but we already have a bunch of slightly varying versions of Green (Okogie, Jeffries) so he really isn't needed. Grant was pretty critical to the team before his knee went bye bye

LaVine feels like a no-brainer over Bridges. Agree with you positionally on Williams if you think his injury won't be an ongoing concern.

The one selling point for Green on a team like Charlotte is for all his flaws, he always plays with maximum effort and Charlotte needs all those guys they can get their hands on. Coaches need to be able to bench guys and point at guys like Josh Green and say he's playing and you are not because he is playing hard and you are mailing in too many possessions.

a healthy LaVine? yeah definitely

As for Green's effort, I'd point to Diabate and Okogie, maybe even Salaun and Baugh, before I pointed to Green as an example. It's good, but our role players' effort isn't the problem on this team, it's their talent and general basketball IQ. They're trying, they just really suck at basketball, are being forced into way bigger roles than they can handle due to injuries to our starters, and that's basically all I can say about Green this year.

[jayjaysee]

Just a random bad KD idea?

Bridges, Grant or Green (CLT’s choice so Grant), Jonas, Sac 2026 first, SAS 2027 first to Phoenix
LaVine to CLT
KD to Sac

Phoenix gets a couple warm bodies and two firsts.

CLT does it if they draft a forward.

Sac goes with Sabonis/KD/Murray/Demar/Monk.

i think i'd roll with Bridges over LaVine, but it's close. LaVine's shot creation would help, but the contract and injury downside is rough.

Also I'd trade Green long before I'd trade Grant personally. Might have a bit more value around the league (read: less negative), but we already have a bunch of slightly varying versions of Green (Okogie, Jeffries) so he really isn't needed. Grant was pretty critical to the team before his knee went bye bye

Yeah, I just think Green is the better player. Even if all you’re doing is trading Green for a power forward. Or Okogie and keep Green. Or just let Okogie walk and use the MLE on a forward..

Make Phoenix pay and wait to see Grant’s recovery.

But I haven’t been tracking that at al. If CLT prefers keeping Grant, that should only make it better for Phoenix imo.

[jayjaysee]

Just a random bad KD idea?

Bridges, Grant or Green (CLT’s choice so Grant), Jonas, Sac 2026 first, SAS 2027 first to Phoenix
LaVine to CLT
KD to Sac

Phoenix gets a couple warm bodies and two firsts.

CLT does it if they draft a forward.

Sac goes with Sabonis/KD/Murray/Demar/Monk.

No idea what value goes into the CLT swap but think it’s minor either way?

I kinda like

Monk, Grant, Okogie, Jonas, 2 1sts to Phoenix
Demar to Charlotte
KD to SAC

phoenix get a starting PG and 2 1sts
Charlotte get a floor raiser
sacramento get a star

Sabonis/KD/Murray/Lavine/Ellis

I don’t think Phoenix gets Monk and 2 firsts. Pretty similar to my feelings on PJ+Gafford.

but if they do, good for them?

Probably need different matching salary than Okogie though? Or a fourth team?

[HornetJail]

Just a random bad KD idea?

Bridges, Grant or Green (CLT’s choice so Grant), Jonas, Sac 2026 first, SAS 2027 first to Phoenix
LaVine to CLT
KD to Sac

Phoenix gets a couple warm bodies and two firsts.

CLT does it if they draft a forward.

Sac goes with Sabonis/KD/Murray/Demar/Monk.

No idea what value goes into the CLT swap but think it’s minor either way?

I kinda like

Monk, Grant, Okogie, Jonas, 2 1sts to Phoenix
Demar to Charlotte
KD to SAC

phoenix get a starting PG and 2 1sts
Charlotte get a floor raiser
sacramento get a star

Sabonis/KD/Murray/Lavine/Ellis

works for me, even though i kinda hate DeRozan as a player. Melo/Miller/DeRozan/Bridges/Mark + top 5(?) rookie is definitely something I can get behind for the short term. Then use a combo of the MLE and future picks+Green to find real contributors at backup PG/SG and PF/C (guys who can play behind and alongside Melo and Mark)