Is Flagg enough to get Denver to trade Jokic?

[wemby]

Nope, wrong all the way around.

Let’s try it the other way around. If Wemby is healthy and you’re the Spurs, would you trade him for Jokic?

In two seconds flat!

No you don't because your team is not ready. There's such a thing as a trade bad for both teams. If Wemby comes back healthy, this is what this proposal would be.

[wemby]

To answer the original question: no, you don't trade Jokic for Flagg in a vaccum. However, if the Nuggets HAD to trade Jokic for some reason, a package around Flagg (and other assets) would likely be at the top of my wish list.

[BBallFreak]

Let’s try it the other way around. If Wemby is healthy and you’re the Spurs, would you trade him for Jokic?

In two seconds flat!

No you don't because your team is not ready. There's such a thing as a trade bad for both teams. If Wemby comes back healthy, this is what this proposal would be.

Yes, you do. You trade what you have to around him and you don't think twice about it. Because, and I cannot stress this enough, the goal is to win a ring!

[wemby]

In two seconds flat!

No you don't because your team is not ready. There's such a thing as a trade bad for both teams. If Wemby comes back healthy, this is what this proposal would be.

Yes, you do. You trade what you have to around him and you don't think twice about it. Because, and I cannot stress this enough, the goal is to win a ring!

And that would be best accomplished by acknowledging your timeline rather than going desperately trying to acquire the kind of pieces around Jokic to put together a contender. Let me remind you he's already playing around a better short term core in the Nuggets than the Spurs would have, if we trade our best pieces for Jokic we'd likely end up a worse team than the Nuggets for the remaining of Jokic's prime, we'd likely end up with no ring and no assets in a long term purgatory. Thank you, I'll pass. But if you think this way then you go ahead and sell the farm for Durant.

[BBallFreak]

No you don't because your team is not ready. There's such a thing as a trade bad for both teams. If Wemby comes back healthy, this is what this proposal would be.

Yes, you do. You trade what you have to around him and you don't think twice about it. Because, and I cannot stress this enough, the goal is to win a ring!

And that would be best accomplished by acknowledging your timeline rather than going desperately trying to acquire the kind of pieces around Jokic to put together a contender. Let me remind you he's already playing around a better short term core in the Nuggets than the Spurs would have, if we trade our best pieces for Jokic we'd likely end up a worse team than the Nuggets for the remaining of Jokic's prime, we'd likely end up with no ring and no assets in a long term purgatory. Thank you, I'll pass. But if you think this way then you go ahead and sell the farm for Durant.

Durant is 35 and injury prone! Not the same thing! Get out of here with your disingenuous nonsense. Argue in good faith or don't argue at all...

[Laimbeer]

Not even close. Cooper Flagg isn't as good of a prospect as Victor Wembanyama and there's isn't a world where the Nuggets would even trade Jokic for Wemby,unless Jokic himself asked to be traded. Even if Jokic requested a trade, any team that lands Cooper Flagg would still need to attach additional assets to make it work value wise.

If Wemby is fully cleared to play and you are as tapped out as Denver you trade Jokic for him and never look back.

No, you don't. You mortgage your future and trade the pieces around Jokic. This guy is prime Jordan valuable.

He's 30 and he's won one title. He's the best player in the league, but not the way Mike was. This is not a good comparison.

That said, you don't trade him for Flagg. As said by others, he's not that sure-fire superstar.

[wemby]

Yes, you do. You trade what you have to around him and you don't think twice about it. Because, and I cannot stress this enough, the goal is to win a ring!

And that would be best accomplished by acknowledging your timeline rather than going desperately trying to acquire the kind of pieces around Jokic to put together a contender. Let me remind you he's already playing around a better short term core in the Nuggets than the Spurs would have, if we trade our best pieces for Jokic we'd likely end up a worse team than the Nuggets for the remaining of Jokic's prime, we'd likely end up with no ring and no assets in a long term purgatory. Thank you, I'll pass. But if you think this way then you go ahead and sell the farm for Durant.

Durant is 35 and injury prone! Not the same thing! Get out of here with your disingenuous nonsense. Argue in good faith or don't argue at all...

Good job faking indignation for obvious hyperbole while skipping the actual arguments, good faith response if I've ever seen one (hint: sarcasm, just in case you miss this too).

[Devilanche]

Let’s try it the other way around. If Wemby is healthy and you’re the Spurs, would you trade him for Jokic?

In two seconds flat!

No you don't because your team is not ready. There's such a thing as a trade bad for both teams. If Wemby comes back healthy, this is what this proposal would be.

Denver is not the spurs though . Rest of team and where they are with each player .. it’s best Denver go all in still even if it get them nowhere.


For spurs , you hope that you get the timeline right and surround wemby with what he need.

[the_process]

Nope, wrong all the way around.

Let’s try it the other way around. If Wemby is healthy and you’re the Spurs, would you trade him for Jokic?

In two seconds flat!

Spurs would not trade Wemby for Jokic.

[hugepatsfan]

I don't think DEN would WANT to trade Jokic for Flagg, but in a world where they've decided to move Jokic (probably because he demanded a trade), I think Flagg might be the most valuable piece offered back. They may not want that value in the form of a prospect though, which would be understandable.

[giberish]

No.

They won't consider it but if Denver doesn't have a credible plan to put a real team around Jokic in the next few years they'd probably be better off making such a move.

If Denver’s FO doesn’t have a credible plan to build a contender around the best player in the world then they all deserve to be fired on the spot

You were saying?

[HornetJail]

No.

They won't consider it but if Denver doesn't have a credible plan to put a real team around Jokic in the next few years they'd probably be better off making such a move.

If Denver’s FO doesn’t have a credible plan to build a contender around the best player in the world then they all deserve to be fired on the spot

You were saying?

i would trust an unknown GM to build better than Booth did, so yeah let's see the next guy's plan. if he doesn't have it then let's talk again in 2026 or 2027

[gswhoops]

No.

They won't consider it but if Denver doesn't have a credible plan to put a real team around Jokic in the next few years they'd probably be better off making such a move.

If Denver’s FO doesn’t have a credible plan to build a contender around the best player in the world then they all deserve to be fired on the spot

You were saying?

Call me Nostradamus

[Diop]

If Jokic hints he wants to leave, then yes

[sisibilio]

Flagg + Avdija + Simons + Ayton + Grant
for Jokic + Murray?

[KembaWalker]

this is the post Luka era
Denver would be lucky to get Flagg for Jokic. in reality theyll get less from an already good team. Jokic isnt going to a bottom feeder

[wegotthabeet]

If Jokic hints he wants to leave, then yes

If he hints he wants to leave then he’s picking his destination and it wouldn’t matter if that team had Flagg or not.

I’d approach this as a two year rental / window otherwise.

There is a reasonably high chance of him just heading back to Serbia after this current contract expires.

Is losing Flagg worth two years of Jokic? You need to feel like you’re the favorite to win it all to do it. Flagg would still have two years on his rookie contract left with Jokic retiring back to Europe.