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Dallas and LA hook up again
Washington + Gafford
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Reaves + Vincent
For Lakers: They trade an ancillary ball handler and scorer for size, defense and rebounding that shores up their FC. They'll need a pg after this trade, but they can find one in FA (Tyus Jones, Chris Paul?)
For Dallas: With Kyrie out, theyre shallow in the backcourt and heavy up front. Scary to only keep 2 bigs when theyre both made of glass, but thats just something theyre gonna have to live with (or draft a big at 11). Reaves + AD with defense can compete for playoffs until Kyrie comes back
FA
Luka
Lebron
PJ
Gafford
Reaves
Christie
Naji
AD
Lively
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Reaves + Vincent
For Lakers: They trade an ancillary ball handler and scorer for size, defense and rebounding that shores up their FC. They'll need a pg after this trade, but they can find one in FA (Tyus Jones, Chris Paul?)
For Dallas: With Kyrie out, theyre shallow in the backcourt and heavy up front. Scary to only keep 2 bigs when theyre both made of glass, but thats just something theyre gonna have to live with (or draft a big at 11). Reaves + AD with defense can compete for playoffs until Kyrie comes back
FA
Luka
Lebron
PJ
Gafford
Reaves
Christie
Naji
AD
Lively
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The Lakers aren't going to entertain this.

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babyjax13 wrote:The Lakers aren't going to entertain this.
I must rate PJ higher than most
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mademan wrote:babyjax13 wrote:The Lakers aren't going to entertain this.
I must rate PJ higher than most
Lakers dont need another PF though with lebron/vanderbilt/hachimura/dfs on the roster
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Godaddycurse wrote:mademan wrote:babyjax13 wrote:The Lakers aren't going to entertain this.
I must rate PJ higher than most
Lakers dont need another PF though with lebron/vanderbilt/hachimura/dfs on the roster
I think they do. They need as many 2 way guys as you can get, and while PJ isnt exactly OG or Bridges, he provides more offense than Rui (fast break, attacking closeouts, taking advantage of mismatches) while being a legit proven versatile defender in the playoffs. But i do agree, this could only happen if there was a Rui trade for a guard
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mademan wrote:babyjax13 wrote:The Lakers aren't going to entertain this.
I must rate PJ higher than most
PJ is expiring, Reaves is really good and LA definitely needs him because he is a credible long-term 2nd/3rd option with Luka. I agree that PJ would be excellent for them, but not at this cost.

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Agree Lakers don't consider this. Probably better with Vanderbilt in for Vincent to save them matching salary to do something else and he no longer would have a role, but even that doesn't save it.
The problem is Dallas absolutely could have gotten Reaves in the Luka deal and just failed to insist on it. Now that they didn't Lakers aren't going to trade him for a couple of expiring 5th starter types.
The problem is Dallas absolutely could have gotten Reaves in the Luka deal and just failed to insist on it. Now that they didn't Lakers aren't going to trade him for a couple of expiring 5th starter types.
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I actually have Reaves and PJ close in value and the deal is close...
Rope in UTA to give Sexton and Lakers would be smart to agree
Something like
DAL send: PJ, Gaff, Hardy, LAL 29 for Reaves/Hachimura/LAL 26 1st
LAL send: Reaves, Hachimura, Maxi/28 1st/26 1st for PJ/Gafford//Sexton/27 1st/29 1st
UTA send Sexton/27 1st for Maxi, Hardy, 28 1st, 27 super swap, both top 4 protected.
Mavs dump Hardy, get backup 4, and downgrade Lakers first
UTA gives Sexton, turns the 27 to swap, and get 28 1st, both top 4 protected
Lakers downgrade at guard, but upgrade at 4 and 5, they also open 30 + 32 1sts for trades.
Rope in UTA to give Sexton and Lakers would be smart to agree
Something like
DAL send: PJ, Gaff, Hardy, LAL 29 for Reaves/Hachimura/LAL 26 1st
LAL send: Reaves, Hachimura, Maxi/28 1st/26 1st for PJ/Gafford//Sexton/27 1st/29 1st
UTA send Sexton/27 1st for Maxi, Hardy, 28 1st, 27 super swap, both top 4 protected.
Mavs dump Hardy, get backup 4, and downgrade Lakers first
UTA gives Sexton, turns the 27 to swap, and get 28 1st, both top 4 protected
Lakers downgrade at guard, but upgrade at 4 and 5, they also open 30 + 32 1sts for trades.
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The Lakers will need a better center if they really want to improve. I agree with using Reaves for a better fit, and Gafford is an excellent backup, but you're short if he's your starting center.
Gafford to HAWKS
PJ+ Lakers 25 to LAKERS
Reaves to MAVS
LA goes for a starting-caliber center with the assets
Gafford to HAWKS
PJ+ Lakers 25 to LAKERS
Reaves to MAVS
LA goes for a starting-caliber center with the assets
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I really don't think Reaves and PJ are close in value and I like PJ a lot. I dont rhink anything in this thread is salvagable as an idea if Reaves is in the deal.

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I don't think PJ is appreciated enough, he's shown he's the perfect PF in the modern game, capable of being support rebounder and rim peotector next to a center, can defend big wings, and offensively can exploit mismatches and score, both he and Reaves and good starters next to offensive 1st option, I don't think it's a stretch to put them at same tier...
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I dont think it should be that far off. But would prefer lively over gaff, even tho i love both of them. But lively is such a great playmaker in the shortroll, and that is worth so much for a team with luka and lebron
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babyjax13 wrote:I really don't think Reaves and PJ are close in value and I like PJ a lot. I dont rhink anything in this thread is salvagable as an idea if Reaves is in the deal.
I think if Dallas is willing to overpay it definitely is. LA tries to address their primary needs and says Lebron is more than enough of a secondary creator when your primary guy is Luka Doncic. And then in a year or two when Lebron retires, they use being the Lakers or those extra assets from Dallas and backfill to replace Reaves.
But Dallas shouldn't overpay. Reaves in for two of the four bigs leaving the most injury prone two, doesn't make Dallas a contender and now they don't have the assets to bring in the 3rd starting caliber big they need.
Again, this should have been part of the Luka deal and nobody would have blinked. But now LA isn't going to do Dallas a favor because the Mavs made a bad deal. And I agree, Reaves is worth more than PJ/Gafford.
But Dallas has the assets to get Reaves and LA shouldn't just refuse to consider it if Dallas got stupid. Again.

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Texas Chuck wrote:Agree Lakers don't consider this. Probably better with Vanderbilt in for Vincent to save them matching salary to do something else and he no longer would have a role, but even that doesn't save it.
The problem is Dallas absolutely could have gotten Reaves in the Luka deal and just failed to insist on it. Now that they didn't Lakers aren't going to trade him for a couple of expiring 5th starter types.
It's actually quite stunning that they did not do a Reaves for Gafford swap in the Luka trade. Would've balanced out the rosters a bit better and at least given the Mavs more value in the deal.
As far as the actual trade proposed - at this point I don't see the Lakers trading Reaves unless it is in a bigger deal for a bigger name. I also think due to the backlash of the Luka trade that at least for the next few years trades b/w the Lakers & Mavs are not gonna happen.
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