Mikal Bridges value/offers

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Re: Mikal Bridges value/offers 

Post#41 » by cgf » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:14 pm

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DowJones wrote:Darius Garland? Might need to get a 3rd team involved.


So what you're saying is:

CLE: Bridges
NYK: Franz
ORL: Garland

:D :P


Had some time to kill so hoped on fanspo to see what this joke could look like if the teams actually discussed it, and I think the closest I can get to making it strengthen all three teams while working financially is:


BKN in: Dadiet + Howard + KCP + Harris + Tucker + '26 WSH FRP + '25 DEN FRP + '26 PHX FRP
BKN out: Johnson

CLE in: Bridges + McBride + Moritz Wagner
CLE out: Garland + Strus

Mitchell - Bridges - Hunter - Mobley - Allen
McBride - Jerome/Merril - Okoro - Wade - Wagner
Porter - Tyson - Okeke

NYK in: Franz Wagner + Bitadze
NYK out: Bridges + Robinson + McBride + Dadiet + Tucker + WSH FRP

Brunson - Hart - Wagner - Anunoby - Towns
Payne - Shamet - McCullar - Achiuwa - Bitadze
Kolek - Hukporti

ORL in: Garland + Strus + Robinson + Cam Johnson
ORL out: F.Wagner + M.Wagner + Bitadze + Howard + KCP + Harris

Garland - Suggs - Johnson - Banchero - Carter
Anthony - Strus - Black - Isaac - Robinson
Joseph - Houstan - da Silva

- BKN gets some draft capital and young players for CJ & some of their capspace.

- Cavs put a disgusting defense around Spida, with Hunter the biggest weakness in the starting lineup...though that can be covered up by starting Wade, McBride, or Okoro; while bringing DeAndre off the bench...and open money to keep one of those bench snipers; adding an excellent energy big to give their bench more size as well, in the process.

- Consolidating talent probably isn't the way to go for us, but Brunson & Towns are both great off-ball players, and adding another high-level creator would really make our offense ridiculous. Goga isn't as good as Mitch when on the court, but is a little cheaper and more durable. Would really be banking on McCullar and Kolek to make an impact sooner than later.

- Orlando unlocks their offense with Garland to make life easier on Paolo, while Strus & Johnson drain open 3s. The defense could take a step back with Johnson and Garland for teams to attack, but I think Black will push CJ to the bench eventually. Plus Carter's shooting wouldn't be as important for spacing, so they could roll Robinson or Isaac out there next to Banchero more often.

- Boston s***s themselves
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Re: Mikal Bridges value/offers 

Post#42 » by BowlRips » Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:50 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:
Astaluego wrote:The Knicks got themselves into a bit of a dead end after the Bridges trade, they overspent and now find themselves short on assets, financially strapped, with some obvious holes and clearly a notch (at least) behind the real contenders. Mikal is still a great, very valuable player, but with Hart cheaper, OG more valuable and Mikal expiring next year, he seems like the obvious candidate, if they want to trade something... (and in my opinion they should)... what offer would you make for him...?


It's not gonna be 5 #1 picks!!


The Knicks don't need to acquire 5 first round picks in order to make themselves whole. It's illogical to frame it that way.
The value of Mikal Bridges is his contract. 2 years 48.5mil.

For the 2024-2025 season to upgrade from Bojan Bogdanovic to Mikal Bridges on a $23m contract, is that not worth the 19th and 26th picks of this upcoming draft?

For the 25-26 Season, for Bridges on a $25m contract, is that worth a '27 first round pick?

The question as to whether they overpaid by adding the 29 and 31 picks - do they gave value from Bridges on his next contract?
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Re: Mikal Bridges value/offers 

Post#43 » by basketballwacko2 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:15 pm

BowlRips wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:
Astaluego wrote:The Knicks got themselves into a bit of a dead end after the Bridges trade, they overspent and now find themselves short on assets, financially strapped, with some obvious holes and clearly a notch (at least) behind the real contenders. Mikal is still a great, very valuable player, but with Hart cheaper, OG more valuable and Mikal expiring next year, he seems like the obvious candidate, if they want to trade something... (and in my opinion they should)... what offer would you make for him...?


It's not gonna be 5 #1 picks!!


The Knicks don't need to acquire 5 first round picks
in order to make themselves whole. It's illogical to frame it that way.
The value of Mikal Bridges is his contract. 2 years 48.5mil.

For the 2024-2025 season to upgrade from Bojan Bogdanovic to Mikal Bridges on a $23m contract, is that not worth the 19th and 26th picks of this upcoming draft?

For the 25-26 Season, for Bridges on a $25m contract, is that worth a '27 first round pick?

The question as to whether they overpaid by adding the 29 and 31 picks - do they gave value from Bridges on his next contract?


I can agree with you on this. I feel they overpaid for him. Trading him now I think you could get 2 #1's and decent matching or expiring salary or take some longer term salary and get more picks. Knicks don't seem to mind paying tax so they have options to take on more salary.
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Re: Mikal Bridges value/offers 

Post#44 » by R-DAWG » Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:00 am

basketballwacko2 wrote:
BowlRips wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:
It's not gonna be 5 #1 picks!!


The Knicks don't need to acquire 5 first round picks
in order to make themselves whole. It's illogical to frame it that way.
The value of Mikal Bridges is his contract. 2 years 48.5mil.

For the 2024-2025 season to upgrade from Bojan Bogdanovic to Mikal Bridges on a $23m contract, is that not worth the 19th and 26th picks of this upcoming draft?

For the 25-26 Season, for Bridges on a $25m contract, is that worth a '27 first round pick?

The question as to whether they overpaid by adding the 29 and 31 picks - do they gave value from Bridges on his next contract?


I can agree with you on this. I feel they overpaid for him. Trading him now I think you could get 2 #1's and decent matching or expiring salary or take some longer term salary and get more picks. Knicks don't seem to mind paying tax so they have options to take on more salary.


As much as trading unprotected 1sts for non stars makes me cringe, the proposal of NY’s 2 2025 1sts and a 2027 1st was a reasonable offer for Bridges. I could have even lived with NY throwing in one of their 2024 1sts as well. In this scenario you have this core for 3 years, have the option to go into the 2nd apron immediately if need be, and can hit the re-set button after the 2027 season.

The extra 2 unprotected picks plus an unprotected swap was overkill. My fear as a Knick fan is after the 2027 season we are going to want to hit the re-set button, but be stuck in the 2nd apron without control of our draft for 3 out of 4 years.
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Re: Mikal Bridges value/offers 

Post#45 » by R-DAWG » Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:15 am

cgf wrote:
DowJones wrote:Darius Garland? Might need to get a 3rd team involved.


So what you're saying is:

CLE: Bridges
NYK: Franz
ORL: Garland

:D :P


I proposed a 3 team trade in the Giannis thread where Bridges ends up in Orlando, KCP and Pick #26 via Orl, with Orlando sending Pick #16 and their 2026 1st (2nd best of WAS/PHX/ORL) to Milwaukee along with KAT and Giannis ending up in New York.

The Bridges part would be KCP, 2 2025 1sts (#16 and #26), and a 2026 1st with good upside. Feels like fair value.

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