Denver - Orlando - Utah

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu May 8, 2025 3:53 pm

Orlando trade: Bitadze, Anthony, #25
Orlando receive: Sexton

Denver trade: Nnaji, 2031 (top 4, then unprotected) 1st
Denver receive: Bitadze, #25

Utah trade: Sexton
Utah receive: Nnaji, Anthony, 2031 DEN (top 4, then unprotected) 1st

Why for Orlando: add scoring help
Why for Denver: upgrade back up C and get bench depth w/ late FRP
Why for Utah: add future higher variance asset for sexton

ReggiesKnicks · Post #2 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Thu May 8, 2025 4:04 pm

I don't think Bitazde and getting off Nnaji is worth a high-variance asset. I also don't think this solves any of Denver's issues in the near term and creates an additional long-term issue.

Godaddycurse · Post #3 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu May 8, 2025 4:18 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:I don't think Bitazde and getting off Nnaji is worth a high-variance asset. I also don't think this solves any of Denver's issues in the near term and creates an additional long-term issue.

Denver gets a late 1st too. you dont think this addresses their back up C issue at all?

Post #4 » by **Mavrelous** » Thu May 8, 2025 4:24 pm

DEN should keep the 1st for a real impact trade, Bitzdze and #25 aren't moving the needle for them.

Godaddycurse · Post #5 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu May 8, 2025 4:34 pm

Mavrelous wrote:DEN should keep the 1st for a real impact trade, Bitzdze and #25 aren't moving the needle for them.

what position are you looking to upgrade for them? their starting lineup have been fine IIRC. its their bench thats been a big problem no?

Skybox · Post #6 » by **Skybox** » Thu May 8, 2025 4:36 pm

Sexton's not my first choice, but he's among the gang of guys that would fit ORL's needs. I like it for DEN - Goga is a fantastic backup and being around Jokic will only compound his contribution. Goga works and listens-that's a good situation for both. Value is ok for ORL as long as Sexton is ready to sign a reasonable extension that day.

ORL turns around and signs DeAndre Jordan for vet min to give them the less expensive beef they need at that spot. They also have Moe Wagner and Isaac can eat some minutes at C, so Goga, while good, is a bit of a luxury at $9m

Post #7 » by **Mavrelous** » Thu May 8, 2025 5:01 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:DEN should keep the 1st for a real impact trade, Bitzdze and #25 aren't moving the needle for them.

what position are you looking to upgrade for them? their starting lineup have been fine IIRC. its their bench thats been a big problem no?

Long term, ideally MPJ, I'd wait till next off season and if he's still underwhelming, trade him for someone else in this salary slot with 31 and 33 wst.

For now, they need big man depth and shooting, I'd try things around the edges
I'd try Zeke Nnaji + Strawther + 2nds for Jalen Smith for example
Nnaji + Saric + Strawther for Kispert
Naji + Strawther for Royce ONeale

I'd even consider using Watson as sweetner if needed, he has value, and better use him instead of 1st, looks like they'll need a big swing soon to help Jokic.

giberish · Post #8 » by **giberish** » Thu May 8, 2025 5:18 pm

For Denver to give up their 2031 1st it should be for a guy who would get more than 4-8 mpg in the playoffs.

That is to say, a guy who would back up one of their weaker starters (really anyone but Jokic) and ideally could cover multiple positions - so effectively backing up 2+ guys.

Post #9 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu May 8, 2025 5:29 pm

Goga can't get playoff minutes on a team with very marginal center options. So why is he getting minutes behind the best player in the world who has proven super durable? No idea why Denver wants to use their last pick on him and dumping a small salary and getting a late 1st back now don't change that for me.

BelgradeNugget · Post #10 » by **BelgradeNugget** » Thu May 8, 2025 5:32 pm

This is a no brainer for Denver. Solve backup big - non Jokic minutes problem, get back pick to draft player now or use in aditional trade for vet help. They give up Nnaji and draft pick 6 years from now. Their main task is to maximize team around Jokic, their time to win is now.
They also have DaRon Holmes II they drafted last year, simmilar to Nnaji type player but with better BBIQ I hope, at PF. They have 7 rotational players now, with Bitadze, aditional year from Strawther, DaRon Holmes II, additional vet they could have 8-9 playoff rotational players next season.

orlando_joe · Post #11 » by **orlando_joe** » Thu May 8, 2025 5:41 pm

would try to hold goga out include jett
and this talk of goga not getting playoff min if you watched he grabbed at his beck every play he was not 100% at all he recently took a bad fall still sore clearly

BelgradeNugget · Post #12 » by **BelgradeNugget** » Thu May 8, 2025 6:07 pm

orlando_joe wrote:would try to hold goga out include jett
and this talk of goga not getting playoff min if you watched he grabbed at his beck every play he was not 100% at all he recently took a bad fall still sore clearly

goga or nothing

Post #13 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu May 8, 2025 6:15 pm

orlando_joe wrote:would try to hold goga out include jett
and this talk of goga not getting playoff min if you watched he grabbed at his beck every play he was not 100% at all he recently took a bad fall still sore clearly

Has his back been injured every year of his career? Because see that would be an even worse scenario. Doesn't matter the year, his coaches have not seen him as a playoff option. Maybe he would have been this year if healthy? Maybe. But its a concern for me when I'm a team who should be thinking playoffs every year. Fine for a team just looking for a part-time center to help get through a regular season. He definitely has value for that, but backup centers who aren't playoff guys simply hold almost no value...

orlando_joe · Post #14 » by **orlando_joe** » Thu May 8, 2025 7:00 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:would try to hold goga out include jett
and this talk of goga not getting playoff min if you watched he grabbed at his beck every play he was not 100% at all he recently took a bad fall still sore clearly

Has his back been injured every year of his career? Because see that would be an even worse scenario. Doesn't matter the year, his coaches have not seen him as a playoff option. Maybe he would have been this year if healthy? Maybe. But its a concern for me when I'm a team who should be thinking playoffs every year. Fine for a team just looking for a part-time center to help get through a regular season. He definitely has value for that, but backup centers who aren't playoff guys simply hold almost no value...

last yr needed mo offense that is more the problem goga does not shoot outside 7 ft...magic starved on that side of ball...shows up even more in playoffs...but is magic best center at blocks and rb when in game for min he gets depends what need is

orlando_joe · Post #15 » by **orlando_joe** » Thu May 8, 2025 7:05 pm

BelgradeNugget wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:would try to hold goga out include jett
and this talk of goga not getting playoff min if you watched he grabbed at his beck every play he was not 100% at all he recently took a bad fall still sore clearly

goga or nothing

i get that from denver view...looking at it from magic sexton exp short guard not my first few choices so yea i would be fine with nothing..lol

Skybox · Post #16 » by **Skybox** » Thu May 8, 2025 8:22 pm

The ONLY problem with Goga (for ORL) is his price tag...he's gotta go unless ORL wants to part ways with Moe Wagner

SkyHook · Post #17 » by **SkyHook** » Fri May 9, 2025 2:37 pm

Utah has to take this, but it's inconceivable that Denver should offer it.

eminence · Post #18 » by **eminence** » Fri May 9, 2025 3:14 pm

Nnaji + 1st for a playable guy (or two if they can get a pick like #25 back) makes a lot of sense for Denver. I don't think Goga slots in well enough to be that guy.

facothomas22 · Post #19 » by **facothomas22** » Fri May 9, 2025 3:23 pm

As others mentioned, the fact that Goga couldn't crack over 10 minutes in the playoffs is a big red flag.I don't even think Goga even see the court at all in the playoffs on Jokic lead team,unless it's in Garbage time. Handing over a unprotected future 1st round pick would a misuse of the limited assets the Nuggets have.

tiderulz · Post #20 » by **tiderulz** » Fri May 9, 2025 3:29 pm

facothomas22 wrote:As others mentioned, the fact that Goga couldn't crack over 10 minutes in the playoffs is a big red flag.I don't even think Goga even see the court at all in the playoffs on Jokic lead team,unless it's in Garbage time. Handing over a unprotected future 1st round pick would a misuse of the limited assets the Nuggets have.

i dont believe its that big a flag. Mosely is not a good offensive coach and he gets certain player rotations stuck in his head.