Bane for Sharpe

[Tim Lehrbach]

Easy yes for Portland. Bane upgrades the backcourt considerably.

[penbeast0]

This one is tough for this Blazers fan. I think the value is really good for us. The struggle for me is Portland still needs that "star" to build around. I'm not at all saying Sharpe is that guy, but at least at 22, there's still a lot of room for growth to be able to trick ourselves in to thinking that might be the case, as there have been flashes. And with Bane, he's obviously better than Sharpe is. But I don't think he's #1 scorer on a contender, and the upside at 27 to get there is likely limited. Do we end up going too far too fast, and cap ourselves out as maybe a 2nd round team? At the same time, I LOVE a wing trio of Bane, Deni and Camara.
I too am surprised a Memphis fan would propose this, but can see the logic in also banking on upside. I think I'd probably say yes, ultimately, and just enjoy runs from a gritty team that might not net a title, but would likely be a fun squad to watch, and a very annoying team for others to face.

Make Memphis also throw in the rights to call yourself "Grit 'n Grind" as well.

[QMemphis]

I would prefer Bane for Ivey/Harris/asset if we are breaking Des into pieces.

[babyjax13]

Bane's value must be a lot lower than I thought?

[Texas Chuck]

Bane's value must be a lot lower than I thought?

I mean he's on a max deal, not much excess value there I wouldn't think. Of course Memphis can fit him in, still raise and extend JJJ and have enough cheap depth to round out a rotation, so I wouldn't trade him for Sharpe or Ivey personally.

But in terms of pure value? I don't think its that far off.

[babyjax13]

Bane's value must be a lot lower than I thought?

I mean he's on a max deal, not much excess value there I wouldn't think. Of course Memphis can fit him in, still raise and extend JJJ and have enough cheap depth to round out a rotation, so I wouldn't trade him for Sharpe or Ivey personally.

But in terms of pure value? I don't think its that far off.

Max deal yes, but it is not a veteran max, it's off his rookie deal. I think any time a player is worth the max there is extra value because so few players are. At 36 million he feels like a pretty good deal, IMO.

[Skybox]

Many will disagree...Bane is a fantastic player, but that contract peaking out at almost $45m would give me pause. Star player, Superstar money.

-yes I know that the salary cap is going up

[babyjax13]

Many will disagree...Bane is a fantastic player, but that contract peaking out at almost $45m would give me pause. Star player, Superstar money.

-yes I know that the salary cap is going up

Yes, next year he is at 36 million. The cap is currently rising faster than his raises. That might not continue (and I am curious if tariffs affect the cap environment at all - are there any studies of the 2008 financial crisis on NBA finances?), but projecting forward I think it is a good contract now and in the future because of that.

[K_chile22]

I mean id give you like Jalen Green (aka Shaedon Sharpe but one year older), Jabari and a pick for bane, this seems like really low value for Memphis

[QMemphis]

I mean id give you like Jalen Green (aka Shaedon Sharpe but one year older), Jabari and a pick for bane, this seems like really low value for Memphis

Green/Smith/future 1st for Bane

[babyjax13]

I tried to expand this but it needs some work (salary balancing, some value balancing)

DAL trades: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Naji Marshall, Max Christie, Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy, Klay Thompson, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
in: Desmond Bane, Jerami Grant
Dallas guts their depth, but Kyrie-Bane-Grant-AD-Lively feels like it could be something.

MEM trades: Desmond Bane
in: Grayson Allen, Naji Marshall, Shaeden Sharpe, Jaden Hardy
Memphis gets a bunch of useful players. If they want to save money Marshall and Allen should be easy to flip for expirings.

POR trades: Jerami Grant, Shaeden Sharpe
in: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Klay Thompson, Max Christie, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
Portland gets a young wing to replace Sharpe + a lottery pick and also reduces their salary commitment to Grant.

PHX trades: Grayson Allen
in: Daniel Gafford
Swap a guard for a center.

[Godaddycurse]

Many will disagree...Bane is a fantastic player, but that contract peaking out at almost $45m would give me pause. Star player, Superstar money.

-yes I know that the salary cap is going up

Superstars make 50-60M these days.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I tried to expand this but it needs some work (salary balancing, some value balancing)

DAL trades: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Naji Marshall, Max Christie, Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy, Klay Thompson, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
in: Desmond Bane, Jerami Grant
Dallas guts their depth, but Kyrie-Bane-Grant-AD-Lively feels like it could be something.

MEM trades: Desmond Bane
in: Grayson Allen, Naji Marshall, Shaeden Sharpe, Jaden Hardy
Memphis gets a bunch of useful players. If they want to save money Marshall and Allen should be easy to flip for expirings.

POR trades: Jerami Grant, Shaeden Sharpe
in: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Klay Thompson, Max Christie, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
Portland gets a young wing to replace Sharpe + a lottery pick and also reduces their salary commitment to Grant.

PHX trades: Grayson Allen
in: Daniel Gafford
Swap a guard for a center.

This is interesting, but the problem lies in Portland trading a very good prospect for the #11 pick and more depth. I think Portland should be consolidating around its large expiring salaries.

[QMemphis]

I tried to expand this but it needs some work (salary balancing, some value balancing)

DAL trades: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Naji Marshall, Max Christie, Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy, Klay Thompson, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
in: Desmond Bane, Jerami Grant
Dallas guts their depth, but Kyrie-Bane-Grant-AD-Lively feels like it could be something.

MEM trades: Desmond Bane
in: Grayson Allen, Naji Marshall, Shaeden Sharpe, Jaden Hardy
Memphis gets a bunch of useful players. If they want to save money Marshall and Allen should be easy to flip for expirings.

POR trades: Jerami Grant, Shaeden Sharpe
in: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Klay Thompson, Max Christie, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
Portland gets a young wing to replace Sharpe + a lottery pick and also reduces their salary commitment to Grant.

PHX trades: Grayson Allen
in: Daniel Gafford
Swap a guard for a center.

Grizz would prefer Max/Naji/Gafford/asset

[babyjax13]

I tried to expand this but it needs some work (salary balancing, some value balancing)

DAL trades: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Naji Marshall, Max Christie, Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy, Klay Thompson, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
in: Desmond Bane, Jerami Grant
Dallas guts their depth, but Kyrie-Bane-Grant-AD-Lively feels like it could be something.

MEM trades: Desmond Bane
in: Grayson Allen, Naji Marshall, Shaeden Sharpe, Jaden Hardy
Memphis gets a bunch of useful players. If they want to save money Marshall and Allen should be easy to flip for expirings.

POR trades: Jerami Grant, Shaeden Sharpe
in: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Klay Thompson, Max Christie, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
Portland gets a young wing to replace Sharpe + a lottery pick and also reduces their salary commitment to Grant.

PHX trades: Grayson Allen
in: Daniel Gafford
Swap a guard for a center.

This is interesting, but the problem lies in Portland trading a very good prospect for the #11 pick and more depth. I think Portland should be consolidating around its large expiring salaries.

I agree. I don't see the original deal or this for them, but it seemed some Portland fans liked the original on value so I thought getting Bane's value from another team could be interesting.

[babyjax13]

I tried to expand this but it needs some work (salary balancing, some value balancing)

DAL trades: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Naji Marshall, Max Christie, Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy, Klay Thompson, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
in: Desmond Bane, Jerami Grant
Dallas guts their depth, but Kyrie-Bane-Grant-AD-Lively feels like it could be something.

MEM trades: Desmond Bane
in: Grayson Allen, Naji Marshall, Shaeden Sharpe, Jaden Hardy
Memphis gets a bunch of useful players. If they want to save money Marshall and Allen should be easy to flip for expirings.

POR trades: Jerami Grant, Shaeden Sharpe
in: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Klay Thompson, Max Christie, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
Portland gets a young wing to replace Sharpe + a lottery pick and also reduces their salary commitment to Grant.

PHX trades: Grayson Allen
in: Daniel Gafford
Swap a guard for a center.

Grizz would prefer Max/Naji/Gafford/asset

Would you directly do the Dallas portion?

Christie, Naji, Gafford, 11 for Bane? Add salaries to balance if needed?

[K_chile22]

I mean id give you like Jalen Green (aka Shaedon Sharpe but one year older), Jabari and a pick for bane, this seems like really low value for Memphis

Green/Smith/future 1st for Bane

Middle pick between PHX/BKN/HOU in 2027 maybe?
Funnily enough they could really use Dillon Brooks big time but I think that bridge is burned

[JRoy]

I tried to expand this but it needs some work (salary balancing, some value balancing)

DAL trades: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Naji Marshall, Max Christie, Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy, Klay Thompson, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
in: Desmond Bane, Jerami Grant
Dallas guts their depth, but Kyrie-Bane-Grant-AD-Lively feels like it could be something.

MEM trades: Desmond Bane
in: Grayson Allen, Naji Marshall, Shaeden Sharpe, Jaden Hardy
Memphis gets a bunch of useful players. If they want to save money Marshall and Allen should be easy to flip for expirings.

POR trades: Jerami Grant, Shaeden Sharpe
in: 2025 DAL 1st (11), Klay Thompson, Max Christie, Caleb Martin, Dwight Powell
Portland gets a young wing to replace Sharpe + a lottery pick and also reduces their salary commitment to Grant.

PHX trades: Grayson Allen
in: Daniel Gafford
Swap a guard for a center.

Pass for POR.

If the decision is made to move SS, diluting his value by adding Grant seems a bad idea.