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Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#1 » by Texas Chuck » Thu May 8, 2025 9:25 pm

Still think some variation of this is my favorite non-KD Dallas move

Suns trade: Allen
Suns get: Gafford

Trade an extra guard for a needed center to pair with Richards.

Jazz trade: Sexton/#21
Jazz get: Thompson/Hardy/#11

Jazz use Sexton to move up into the lottery. Thompson provides spacing for their kids to develop. Or you flip him.

Mavs trade: Gafford/Thompson/Hardy/#11
Mavs get: Sexton/Allen/#21

Mavs get Kyrie stopgap/6th man, and one you could extend off that number and Allen backfills in for Klay to make a good rotation at SG with Christie. Take a high variance swing with 21.
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#2 » by jredsaz » Thu May 8, 2025 10:26 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Still think some variation of this is my favorite non-KD Dallas move

Suns trade: Allen
Suns get: Gafford

Trade an extra guard for a needed center to pair with Richards.

Jazz trade: Sexton/#21
Jazz get: Thompson/Hardy/#11

Jazz use Sexton to move up into the lottery. Thompson provides spacing for their kids to develop. Or you flip him.

Mavs trade: Gafford/Thompson/Hardy/#11
Mavs get: Sexton/Allen/#21

Mavs get Kyrie stopgap/6th man, and one you could extend off that number and Allen backfills in for Klay to make a good rotation at SG with Christie. Take a high variance swing with 21.


Makes sense. How about a pick swap? Suns get #21 and Mavs get #29. Gafford is expiring and Allen has a decent contract locked in for three.
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#3 » by Texas Chuck » Thu May 8, 2025 10:34 pm

jredsaz wrote:Makes sense. How about a pick swap? Suns get #21 and Mavs get #29. Gafford is expiring and Allen has a decent contract locked in for three.


Yeah maybe? Typically this board hasn't valued Allen very highly, but I would agree his contract length is a positive. I'd be okay with adding that value to the Suns to account for it.
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#4 » by SkyHook » Thu May 8, 2025 11:18 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Still think some variation of this is my favorite non-KD Dallas move

Suns trade: Allen
Suns get: Gafford

Trade an extra guard for a needed center to pair with Richards.

Jazz trade: Sexton/#21
Jazz get: Thompson/Hardy/#11

Jazz use Sexton to move up into the lottery. Thompson provides spacing for their kids to develop. Or you flip him.

Mavs trade: Gafford/Thompson/Hardy/#11
Mavs get: Sexton/Allen/#21

Mavs get Kyrie stopgap/6th man, and one you could extend off that number and Allen backfills in for Klay to make a good rotation at SG with Christie. Take a high variance swing with 21.


The value seems about right, especially if the Jazz have a target in mind for #11. The potential stumbling block is the reported desire for Utah not to take on salary beyond the 25-26 season; unsure if this would convince Jazz brass to reconsider.
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#5 » by babyjax13 » Fri May 9, 2025 12:04 am

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Texas Chuck wrote:Still think some variation of this is my favorite non-KD Dallas move

Suns trade: Allen
Suns get: Gafford

Trade an extra guard for a needed center to pair with Richards.

Jazz trade: Sexton/#21
Jazz get: Thompson/Hardy/#11

Jazz use Sexton to move up into the lottery. Thompson provides spacing for their kids to develop. Or you flip him.

Mavs trade: Gafford/Thompson/Hardy/#11
Mavs get: Sexton/Allen/#21

Mavs get Kyrie stopgap/6th man, and one you could extend off that number and Allen backfills in for Klay to make a good rotation at SG with Christie. Take a high variance swing with 21.


The value seems about right, especially if the Jazz have a target in mind for #11. The potential stumbling block is the reported desire for Utah not to take on salary beyond the 25-26 season; unsure if this would convince Jazz brass to reconsider.

I would hope we aren't committed to that plan. I really like this deal. I have Gafford = Allen. Allen has a longer contract and ymmv on that, but I think Gafford is a bit better/more coveted. Most teams could use him as a backup, some could use him as a starter. Lots of teams could use Allen, but several have their shooting guard rotation in a place where he doesn't make a ton of sense? So I wouldn't add the 21 for 28 swap, personally.
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#6 » by jredsaz » Fri May 9, 2025 1:10 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
jredsaz wrote:Makes sense. How about a pick swap? Suns get #21 and Mavs get #29. Gafford is expiring and Allen has a decent contract locked in for three.


Yeah maybe? Typically this board hasn't valued Allen very highly, but I would agree his contract length is a positive. I'd be okay with adding that value to the Suns to account for it.


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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#7 » by Darren » Sat May 10, 2025 1:29 am

I'd rather keep Gafford and 11 pick.
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#8 » by hcsilla » Sat May 10, 2025 11:22 am

Good trade overall.
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#9 » by Saberestar » Sun May 11, 2025 6:49 am

I like this trade for the Suns and I think is a fair trade for every team.
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#10 » by ReggiesKnicks » Sun May 11, 2025 6:57 am

If the goal for the Mavericks is to move down, does #26 + #27 work?


Cam Johnson + #26 +#27 for Filer + #11
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Re: Suns/Jazz/Mavs Nothing New here 

Post#11 » by babyjax13 » Sun May 11, 2025 8:44 am

ReggiesKnicks wrote:If the goal for the Mavericks is to move down, does #26 + #27 work?


Cam Johnson + #26 +#27 for Filer + #11

Cam is a better player than Sexton - not sure if he addresses needs in the same way, but I could imagine some kind of three team deal that moves Utah up from 21 using one/both of 26/27 <depending on what salary comes back to Utah> and Dallas ends up with Cam and Sexton?
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