BOS/DAl/LAL/DET/WAS extravganza

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I see a Jrue as positive as well. I guess you just view Klay and PJ more negatively than I. I think PJ is a quality rotation guy and positive value, Klay is neutral to tiny neg ballast. We can use him a year, then flip. Those 2 and saving the extra years seems about right to me. There is some cost to saving $50m.

We will just have to wait and see!

I'm not sure we're far enough apart for that, lol. If it's PJ/Gafford, I'm psyched. If it's PJ/Klay, I'm happy.

Oh I meant on the bigger topic of Jrue's deal they aren't trading for Klay I'd bet my house on that it's not happening

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We will just have to wait and see!

I'm not sure we're far enough apart for that, lol. If it's PJ/Gafford, I'm psyched. If it's PJ/Klay, I'm happy.

Oh I meant on the bigger topic of Jrue's deal they aren't trading for Klay I'd bet my house on that it's not happening

I mean its a super safe bet to say one specific player isn't getting traded for another one. I mean I wouldn't risk my house, but you will probably be fine.

The point is just to point out what it needs to make sense for Dallas. I totally understand if you want no part of Klay in Boston. But financially Dallas would have to include him or Martin/Hardy which is even worse for Boston so I didn't mention it. At least with Klay it would be easy to reroute him to another team for something cheaper/shorter.

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We will just have to wait and see!

I'm not sure we're far enough apart for that, lol. If it's PJ/Gafford, I'm psyched. If it's PJ/Klay, I'm happy.

Oh I meant on the bigger topic of Jrue's deal they aren't trading for Klay I'd bet my house on that it's not happening

I know, I meant that that's the point I think we agree on - Jrue's deal. I see him as positive as well. But, all good. This would be way easier at a bar than keyboards, lol.

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I'm not sure we're far enough apart for that, lol. If it's PJ/Gafford, I'm psyched. If it's PJ/Klay, I'm happy.

Oh I meant on the bigger topic of Jrue's deal they aren't trading for Klay I'd bet my house on that it's not happening

I mean its a super safe bet to say one specific player isn't getting traded for another one. I mean I wouldn't risk my house, but you will probably be fine.

The point is just to point out what it needs to make sense for Dallas. I totally understand if you want no part of Klay in Boston. But financially Dallas would have to include him or Martin/Hardy which is even worse for Boston so I didn't mention it. At least with Klay it would be easy to reroute him to another team for something cheaper/shorter.

Imo the deals will be a lot multi-team trades not quite like the OP but maybe a little closer than the average trade, due to the new $ environment. So I'm not that concerned with detailing what other players go where at the moment as I'm not less familiar with it. These spitballing ideas for me it's just assumed there are some other pieces involved for $ purposes, like I mentioned in my first post about it, though that may have been on the Celtics board rather than here so I suppose it's a moot point.

On the same issue with Boston though they have maintained a super clean contract situation for years, you'd have to go back to the late teens/early 20s when they absolutely churned through oddball contracts, which hasn't happened at all since I'd say jettisoning Dennis Schroeder in mid-22.

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You could probably find teams to take Hardy, Hauser and Tilman because all are affordable contracts for the production they provide, but . . . definitely not BRK.

BRK will make reaching the salary floor their first priority. They have to spend an extra $62M to reach the salary floor of approx $141M, and according to Spotrac unless they are able to move some of their (four!) FRPs, they've got no available roster spots to spend that money on.

Brooklyn's biggest problem this off-season is a lack of roster spots

Can't disagree much more. They have plenty of players they could simply waive to create roster spots. Including salary dump guys they take on for value.

They will have zero issues getting to the floor and they should absolutely sell their cap space.



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Agree BRK should sell their cap space, and yes, they have 3 or 4 players that they'd easily part with or cut or whatever. I still don't think BRK would contemplate trading for 3 backup level players that would still leave it with $50M+ they'd have to spend. BRK will be much more interested in large expiring contracts.

As DET experienced last off-season, reaching the salary floor is not trivial, especially if they want to retain flexibility for the 2026 FA class as their FO has hinted at and also avoid taking on long-term dead money. There is a timing problem: teams that want to cut salary effectively have until the trade deadline, while Brooklyn has until opening night tip-off to reach the salary floor (or forego tax payout). Until Brooklyn has a clear path to reaching the salary floor, every trade will be looked at in terms of that, and meanwhile, Brooklyn will be dealing with teams that have the irrational optimism of the off-season (no FO wants to give up before the season starts) as well as players that want multi-year contracts.

So while there are many, many ways for a team like Brooklyn to reach the salary floor, getting there without taking on bad money that messes up their rebuild is harder than it looks.

Fontecchio's contract is terrible, but he is an expiring.

Tobias is on a pretty good deal, he is a starter caliber player, on an expiring deal, and his deal is not too expensive.

Beasley was on a great deal, and he expired.

The only terrible deal we made was Grimes for THJ but we didn't have leverage because we wanted to trade for THJ. Cade asked for us to aquire him, that's where we lost leverage, not because we had cap.

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How many terrible Boston deals are people gonna suggest? They need to cut less than 20M to go under 2nd apron. Why are they sending out 70+M in salary out, giving up picks AND taking dead money back?

I disagree, if they aren't competing they will want to reset releater tax, not just 2nd Apron.
Jrue will be 36 at the start of 26/27 season, the time tonget out of his deal if you don't need him next year is now.
KP hasn't had a healthy PO in his career and he's expiring.
This deal:
1. Drops them below tax
2. Gets them back expiring that can be used.
3. Doesn't require any future 1st round capital.

Feel free to disagree...

I really think they won’t do anything this wild without getting useful players in return, but maybe. They will want to reduce the tax bill this coming year and reset the repeater in 26/27. Trading Jrue for players making around 20 million would do that. KP comes off the books anyway so not a lot of reason to trade him other than saving money.
Something like trading both with Assets is possible, but IDK…I think they could pull it off without attaching the FRP.