LAL/BK/UTA/DAL

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Re: LAL/BK/UTA/DAL 

Post#21 » by jayjaysee » Fri May 16, 2025 10:58 am

Mavrelous wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:I like the creativity, but I do think Dallas/Utah are both getting too good a deal.

I think my valuation off the OP would be like..

2026 first to Brooklyn (unprotected but lower variance since it’s just Claxton going out - still a really good deal for Brooklyn)

2028 first to Utah (unprotected and make them eat some salary or throw in 2nds if Brooklyn prefers that. But delaying the first and unprotecting it are both wins for Utah)

2030 protected first to Dallas (say top 6 2030 and 2031 then unprotected 2032?)

Dallas still guarantees themselves a first but LAL gets to guarantee themselves a first for two years if they are rebuilding at that point?


I think Calxton value is expiring + protected 1st, Lakers don't have that, that's why I tried to manuever.
Here are my few thoughts:
1. Dallas deserve payment for facilitating the deal, we can haggle over what the payment is, but not the fact they deserve it.
2. For Brooklyn to get a high variance future asset, they need to give more than just Calxton for expiring, so they take Vando's bad deal + Hardy dump from DAL.

I like your deal also, but I think DAL pick should be unprotected, and Utah shoud eat the bad money as they are the ones getting the upgraded pick.


I just don’t think Dallas gets to dump 16 million and keep a similar value pick? Double dipping to me.

I would want the protection to last a couple years, but yeah I’d let LA protect it in order to open the taxMLE for “Dennis, Tyus, etc” or maybe on a 3rd string center after trading Gaff for a point guard..
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Re: LAL/BK/UTA/DAL 

Post#22 » by Mavrelous » Fri May 16, 2025 10:59 am

drchaos wrote:Why do people think the Laker's 2030 first rounder is a high value asset when they have Luka and the NBA keeps fixing things to give them all stars in exchange for the number one overall draft pick?

If I am the Nets I am expecting that pick to be in the 20-30 range.

Lakers gave 8th pick (Dyson Daniels) just 3 years ago with LeBron and AD on their team.
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Re: LAL/BK/UTA/DAL 

Post#23 » by jayjaysee » Fri May 16, 2025 11:02 am

Could Utah/Brk cut Dallas out here?

26 first to Brooklyn
27 first to LAL
27 swap, 28 swap, 30 swap to Utah

Utah doesn’t currently have extra firsts in 28/30 but hopefully by then they are done rebuilding and can hope Luka walks / injured one of the years?
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Re: LAL/BK/UTA/DAL 

Post#24 » by daoneandonly » Fri May 16, 2025 11:22 am

Texas Chuck wrote:Now we are just inventing contracts for Luka to justify this? Cmon now. This is just free value for Dallas they don't warrant.


I wouldnt say they dont warrant. Khalil is just doing what the inept Nico didnt when the trade was made
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Re: LAL/BK/UTA/DAL 

Post#25 » by Apz » Fri May 16, 2025 3:15 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Apz wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:It's not inventing, it's the most likely contract he'll sign to maximize his earnings.


Dont know why u think luka cares more about maximize earnings then winning? Nothing ever showed that. And he obviously got no loyalty to lakers after they helped backstab him. I would actually be really dissapointed in him if he extended with lakers this summer. And people say he should learn from lebron. Well, first thing is to not extend without putting pressure on team with the po, just like lebron done for many years

Yes, all players do, I don't have it as controversial or "inventing" to say Luka will do 2+1, this is also what Bobby Marks suggested, this gives the Lakers the assurance they have time with him to go and spend, and Luka the option to opt out and sign a bigger deal or go somewhere else if things don't work out.


Have a hard time to see luka wanting to spend 2 more years on a team that cant win and wont be able to win while he is in his prime. He waited 6 years for a competive team at mavs and once he got it he were traded. Just becausr bobby and the rest is under pressure to try to keep luka in LA from the nba doesnt really matter, its up to luka if he sees a path forward with the franchise. He can sign a 1+1 next offseason if the lajers project looks promising, but doubt it will with pretty much zero assets. Now, if lakers manage to trade reaves for lively and pj, he might actually sign it

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