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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#141 » by Skybox » Sat May 17, 2025 5:48 pm

Chinook wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Had it earlier but I think Fox+Sochan for Durant is the best move.

CP3 | Harper
Castle | Wesley
Vassell | Keldon
Durant | Barnes
Wemby | Sandro


I am probably the biggest Durant-to-SAS fan on this site, but that's not the best move. Fox is much better than Paul, Castle or Harper. I think there's value to bringing Durant in far beyond winning a title in the next two years, but you still WANT to try to win. If KD wants to be a Spur, Fox is likely part of the reason why. You have a viable big three that has to gel, stay healthy and in Wemby's case, continue to grow in order to maximize their chances, but they'd be a dark horse coming in. Without that third All-Star, it's just another year or "learning under vets", except the Spurs gave up multiple firsts and second to make it happen.


If you could somehow make the money work...Harper and all the junk you don't want for Durant would be a no-brainer for PHX, imo. SAS contends now, I think, still has #14 and a largely young team.
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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#142 » by wemby » Sat May 17, 2025 6:31 pm

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Chinook wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Had it earlier but I think Fox+Sochan for Durant is the best move.

CP3 | Harper
Castle | Wesley
Vassell | Keldon
Durant | Barnes
Wemby | Sandro


I am probably the biggest Durant-to-SAS fan on this site, but that's not the best move. Fox is much better than Paul, Castle or Harper. I think there's value to bringing Durant in far beyond winning a title in the next two years, but you still WANT to try to win. If KD wants to be a Spur, Fox is likely part of the reason why. You have a viable big three that has to gel, stay healthy and in Wemby's case, continue to grow in order to maximize their chances, but they'd be a dark horse coming in. Without that third All-Star, it's just another year or "learning under vets", except the Spurs gave up multiple firsts and second to make it happen.


If you could somehow make the money work...Harper and all the junk you don't want for Durant would be a no-brainer for PHX, imo. SAS contends now, I think, still has #14 and a largely young team.

Yeah, it's a no brainer move for the Suns, and a brain dead move for the Spurs. One that would make Nico Harrison look like a genius in comparison.
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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#143 » by zimpy27 » Sat May 17, 2025 9:08 pm

Chinook wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Had it earlier but I think Fox+Sochan for Durant is the best move.

CP3 | Harper
Castle | Wesley
Vassell | Keldon
Durant | Barnes
Wemby | Sandro


I am probably the biggest Durant-to-SAS fan on this site, but that's not the best move. Fox is much better than Paul, Castle or Harper. I think there's value to bringing Durant in far beyond winning a title in the next two years, but you still WANT to try to win. If KD wants to be a Spur, Fox is likely part of the reason why. You have a viable big three that has to gel, stay healthy and in Wemby's case, continue to grow in order to maximize their chances, but they'd be a dark horse coming in. Without that third All-Star, it's just another year or "learning under vets", except the Spurs gave up multiple firsts and second to make it happen.


I don't think Fox is all that much better than CP3, but I think CP3 is a better mentor to Castle/Harper. I think you have to remember how much cheaper this combo is without Fox.

8 man roster is strong: CP3, Castle, Vassell, Durant, Wemby -- Harper, Keldon, Barnes

Spurs would have full MLE and BAE to add guys in free agency to this group.
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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#144 » by Texas Chuck » Sat May 17, 2025 9:13 pm

Lol at thinking trading Harper is worse than Luka.

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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#145 » by Chinook » Sat May 17, 2025 9:20 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Chinook wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Had it earlier but I think Fox+Sochan for Durant is the best move.

CP3 | Harper
Castle | Wesley
Vassell | Keldon
Durant | Barnes
Wemby | Sandro


I am probably the biggest Durant-to-SAS fan on this site, but that's not the best move. Fox is much better than Paul, Castle or Harper. I think there's value to bringing Durant in far beyond winning a title in the next two years, but you still WANT to try to win. If KD wants to be a Spur, Fox is likely part of the reason why. You have a viable big three that has to gel, stay healthy and in Wemby's case, continue to grow in order to maximize their chances, but they'd be a dark horse coming in. Without that third All-Star, it's just another year or "learning under vets", except the Spurs gave up multiple firsts and second to make it happen.


I don't think Fox is all that much better than CP3, but I think CP3 is a better mentor to Castle/Harper. I think you have to remember how much cheaper this combo is without Fox.

8 man roster is strong: CP3, Castle, Vassell, Durant, Wemby -- Harper, Keldon, Barnes

Spurs would have full MLE and BAE to add guys in free agency to this group.


He's far better than Paul. Paul isn't a starter on a serious team anymore. He has world-class basketball intelligence. He knows the right play to make at all times. He just can't physically make them as frequently anymore. He can't pressure a defense. He can't stay in front of anybody. I value him as a mentor too, and if he wants to come off the bench with Harper next year, there's a role for him. But he's not Fox. Castle and Harper aren't either. Paul was far better than Fox once, and I hope Castle and Harper each surpass Fox in the future. But DAF is the clear best PG on the roster.

If Castle or Harper were up for a new contract right now, the salary compared to Fox might matter. But right now, the Spurs get to have a penetrator in his prime, and that's worth the money. They can afford Durant without trading Fox. Fox helps the team. Fox really helps a team that has two years to try to do something with Durant. Thus, they shouldn't be looking to move him.
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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#146 » by wemby » Sat May 17, 2025 9:21 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Lol at thinking trading Harper is worse than Luka.

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Sure, but one is a trade for a 37 year old expiring Durant, and the other a prime AD + unprotected first + Max Christie. Just small details.
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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#147 » by One_and_Done » Sat May 17, 2025 9:56 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Chinook wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Had it earlier but I think Fox+Sochan for Durant is the best move.

CP3 | Harper
Castle | Wesley
Vassell | Keldon
Durant | Barnes
Wemby | Sandro


I am probably the biggest Durant-to-SAS fan on this site, but that's not the best move. Fox is much better than Paul, Castle or Harper. I think there's value to bringing Durant in far beyond winning a title in the next two years, but you still WANT to try to win. If KD wants to be a Spur, Fox is likely part of the reason why. You have a viable big three that has to gel, stay healthy and in Wemby's case, continue to grow in order to maximize their chances, but they'd be a dark horse coming in. Without that third All-Star, it's just another year or "learning under vets", except the Spurs gave up multiple firsts and second to make it happen.


I don't think Fox is all that much better than CP3, but I think CP3 is a better mentor to Castle/Harper. I think you have to remember how much cheaper this combo is without Fox.

8 man roster is strong: CP3, Castle, Vassell, Durant, Wemby -- Harper, Keldon, Barnes

Spurs would have full MLE and BAE to add guys in free agency to this group.

1) the Spurs aren't doing that
2) Fox is vastly better than CP3 at this point
3) I doubt CP3 will be back
4) Fox isn't agreeing to go to Phoenix
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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#148 » by zimpy27 » Sat May 17, 2025 10:30 pm

Chinook wrote:
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Chinook wrote:
I am probably the biggest Durant-to-SAS fan on this site, but that's not the best move. Fox is much better than Paul, Castle or Harper. I think there's value to bringing Durant in far beyond winning a title in the next two years, but you still WANT to try to win. If KD wants to be a Spur, Fox is likely part of the reason why. You have a viable big three that has to gel, stay healthy and in Wemby's case, continue to grow in order to maximize their chances, but they'd be a dark horse coming in. Without that third All-Star, it's just another year or "learning under vets", except the Spurs gave up multiple firsts and second to make it happen.


I don't think Fox is all that much better than CP3, but I think CP3 is a better mentor to Castle/Harper. I think you have to remember how much cheaper this combo is without Fox.

8 man roster is strong: CP3, Castle, Vassell, Durant, Wemby -- Harper, Keldon, Barnes

Spurs would have full MLE and BAE to add guys in free agency to this group.


He's far better than Paul. Paul isn't a starter on a serious team anymore. He has world-class basketball intelligence. He knows the right play to make at all times. He just can't physically make them as frequently anymore. He can't pressure a defense. He can't stay in front of anybody. I value him as a mentor too, and if he wants to come off the bench with Harper next year, there's a role for him. But he's not Fox. Castle and Harper aren't either. Paul was far better than Fox once, and I hope Castle and Harper each surpass Fox in the future. But DAF is the clear best PG on the roster.

If Castle or Harper were up for a new contract right now, the salary compared to Fox might matter. But right now, the Spurs get to have a penetrator in his prime, and that's worth the money. They can afford Durant without trading Fox. Fox helps the team. Fox really helps a team that has two years to try to do something with Durant. Thus, they shouldn't be looking to move him.



I think you overrate Fox. He's not an efficient scorer, if he's making up 25% of your points then you're working at a deficit.

He has value but I'd be betting on Harper-Castle and I'd want them to get reps over Fox
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Re: What does San Antonio do. 

Post#149 » by ferk » Sun May 18, 2025 4:13 am

idk but if the spurs move Barnes i hope the grizz could pick him up as a 3rd team for a combo of Clarke/Konchar/GG/Picks

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