Spurs land Sabonis & KD to Houston

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Re: Spurs land Sabonis & KD to Houston 

Post#21 » by jredsaz » Mon May 26, 2025 1:57 am

wemby wrote:
jredsaz wrote:I think this view of Durant is completely off. KD is still an incredibly effective player. If he plays like three more games last season he makes an all NBA team. There isn’t anything that has significantly declined in his game post Achilles injury. His shot making ability and length will age well. If a young team with cap flexibility and a culture wants a super charged championship contender level jump at a discount, KD is a great option.

If you have an all NBA guy with no injury/decline/salary concerns in sight, you should keep him and make other adjustments around him. Yet, we see Durant trade proposals every day, by SUNS FANS, not other teams. I wonder why that is...

You can tell yourself whatever you want, Durant is a great player and no one is going to dispute that, but the fact is he'll by 37 by the start of next season, has a long and serious injury history, is paid a max, and is on an expiring. All of that makes his value way, way less than his peak performance would have you believe, and this is an honest, unbiased assessment, as I have said multiple times I would not trade for him for the Spurs.

Suns need to acknowledge what they paid for him is a sunk cost and move on quickly before his value goes down even more, strike a deal with the Rockets or any team that will offer you a couple of useful vets even if little to no draft capital is attached, if the perception around the league is that the Suns are not an imminent shipwreck, you might be able to recoup your own picks for far cheaper than it'd be right now as the state of your team had their value skyrocket.


Suns are basically out of assets so retooling around KD is difficult. Add Beals contract to that and they are pretty much stuck. That’s why they are looking to trade KD. I mean everything I said in my post is accurate. I clearly understand his age and contract are mitigating issues and that’s why the return proposed is this limited for a guy who puts up elite numbers :lol:
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Re: Spurs land Sabonis & KD to Houston 

Post#22 » by jredsaz » Mon May 26, 2025 2:16 am

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Chinook wrote:I don't have Durant taking more than a 50-percent paycut as "very reasonable". I would but a $75M/2 deal as still being very team-friendly and $90M/2 to be on line being team-friendly and just honest about Durant's capabilities at this point in his career.

I've mentioned before that I think Sabonis about the worst type of player for the Spurs to invest a large amount of cap space and draft picks around. On one hand, the Spurs are giving up 14, the 31 swap and swapping their 2027 pick for Atlanta's, which seems like a relatively cheap price. (I can't say for sure, because this format only has a receives field, and that makes it really hard to track over a four-team deal.) On the other hand, let another team figure that out. Houston and Phoenix can talk a Durant deal. SA and SAC don't have anything to talk about.


I think this view of Durant is completely off. KD is still an incredibly effective player. If he plays like three more games last season he makes an all NBA team. There isn’t anything that has significantly declined in his game post Achilles injury. His shot making ability and length will age well. If a young team with cap flexibility and a culture wants a super charged championship contender level jump at a discount, KD is a great option.


... Did you even read my post?


No I did. Forgot to respond the second half tho. lol. That’s not a large amount of draft capital to invest in Sabonis. I understand your hesitance of adding another ball dominant guy but Sabonis does so many things well I think they could figure out a high efficiency offense with Fox, Sabonis and Wemby. At worst Sabonis has plenty of control moving forward and more value than what you’re giving up here if the roster doesn’t work out next season.
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Re: Spurs land Sabonis & KD to Houston 

Post#23 » by Chinook » Mon May 26, 2025 2:19 am

jredsaz wrote:
Chinook wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
I think this view of Durant is completely off. KD is still an incredibly effective player. If he plays like three more games last season he makes an all NBA team. There isn’t anything that has significantly declined in his game post Achilles injury. His shot making ability and length will age well. If a young team with cap flexibility and a culture wants a super charged championship contender level jump at a discount, KD is a great option.


... Did you even read my post?


No I did.

I don't know that you did, because you said you said my view on Durant was completely off despite you agreeing with it pretty directly.

It's a no on Sabonis, though. If the Kings can get more value for Sabonis, they should do that. If this trade goes through, it implies that's his value and it doesn't make sense to believe some team would offer more. It's not just Fox; it's also the two other point-guards on the team. It's a bad choice to try to put him around Wemby.
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Re: Spurs land Sabonis & KD to Houston 

Post#24 » by jredsaz » Mon May 26, 2025 2:24 am

Chinook wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Chinook wrote:
... Did you even read my post?


No I did.

I don't know that you did, because you said you said my view on Durant was completely off despite you agreeing with it pretty directly.

It's a no on Sabonis, though. If the Kings can get more value for Sabonis, they should do that. If this trade goes through, it implies that's his value and it doesn't make sense to believe some team would offer more. It's not just Fox; it's also the two other point-guards on the team. It's a bad choice to try to put him around Wemby.


My point was splitting hairs about 2/90 and 2/110 when looking at acquiring him isn’t the way a team like the Spurs would be looking at it. He be brought in to elevate their ceiling to a championship level and if that works the extra 10 per year is inconsequential.
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Re: Spurs land Sabonis & KD to Houston 

Post#25 » by Chinook » Mon May 26, 2025 2:33 am

jredsaz wrote:
Chinook wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
No I did.

I don't know that you did, because you said you said my view on Durant was completely off despite you agreeing with it pretty directly.

It's a no on Sabonis, though. If the Kings can get more value for Sabonis, they should do that. If this trade goes through, it implies that's his value and it doesn't make sense to believe some team would offer more. It's not just Fox; it's also the two other point-guards on the team. It's a bad choice to try to put him around Wemby.


My point was splitting hairs about 2/90 and 2/110 when looking at acquiring him isn’t the way a team like the Spurs would be looking at it.


But that wasn't what I said, and this thread isn't even about the Spurs trading for KD. I just really think you didn't read my post and got me confused with another Spurs poster who didn't want Durant.

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