Kings - Memphis

[LightTheBeam]

JVal for Clarke, GG, konchar.

Kings take on a bunch of salary to get a look at GG. brings the kings a 20 year old with some size to put next to Keegan. Clarke is a fine backup center.

Memphis saves money while upgrading backup center.

Morant/Pippen
Bane/Kennard
Wells/Vince Williams
JJJ/Aldama
Edey/Jval

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Trade doesn't work on Spotrac under the 2025/26 offseason. It would have to be Clarke and one of GG or Konchar

In either case I think Memphis declines. I don't think Memphis would trade GG straight up for JV. Clarke was a big part of their rotation and was sorely missed in the playoffs. They save 8 million (if they move Konchar/Clarke) but lose a good rotation player for a worse one while still having to sign more players to meet roster minimums.

Unless there is some larger trade coming I don't see it for Memphis

[LightTheBeam]

Trade doesn't work on Spotrac under the 2025/26 offseason. It would have to be Clarke and one of GG or Konchar

In either case I think Memphis declines. I don't think Memphis would trade GG straight up for JV. Clarke was a big part of their rotation and was sorely missed in the playoffs. They save 8 million (if they move Konchar/Clarke) but lose a good rotation player for a worse one while still having to sign more players to meet roster minimums.

Unless there is some larger trade coming I don't see it for Memphis

My understanding is sac could absorb Clarke or konchar into a trade exception, then making it legal.

The concept is they want the money to resign JJJ/Aldama, and they save 10.5 million here. GG wasnt in the rotation, and im not sure I agree Clarke > Jval but I guess that's a take.

[Texas Chuck]

I don't think Memphis would trade GG straight up for JV.

OP knows this. Which is why the value to the Grizzlies is to take Clarke/Konchar back as well so they can raise extend JJJ.

Now I think Memphis can achieve that end without having to sacrifice GG so I would expect them to pass on the OP, but taking on the money is value added that can't be ignored.

[Godaddycurse]

I don't think Memphis would trade GG straight up for JV.

OP knows this. Which is why the value to the Grizzlies is to take Clarke/Konchar back as well so they can raise extend JJJ.

Now I think Memphis can achieve that end without having to sacrifice GG so I would expect them to pass on the OP, but taking on the money is value added that can't be ignored.

but they need to dump them without taking back JV i think if the purpose is to extend JJJ. maybe if they wink wink and do clarke and konchar first, then extend, then take JV into their MLE exception?

[Texas Chuck]

I don't think Memphis would trade GG straight up for JV.

OP knows this. Which is why the value to the Grizzlies is to take Clarke/Konchar back as well so they can raise extend JJJ.

Now I think Memphis can achieve that end without having to sacrifice GG so I would expect them to pass on the OP, but taking on the money is value added that can't be ignored.

but they need to dump them without taking back JV i think if the purpose is to extend JJJ. maybe if they wink wink and do clarke and konchar first, then extend, then take JV into their MLE exception?

Yeah maybe, I didn't run the numbers. My point to RAW though is that the deal isn't JV for GG, a deal Memphis would have no interest in. This is mostly a money deal. And one I don't think Memphis should make, but its not a GG for JV trade.

[psman2]

If we chose to resign Aldama then would have to dump more salary than this do to JJJ renegotiation which I still think is the plan, which hopefully can be done with Val going to a 3rd team for less salary or none. I think GG still holds 1st round value so I would be hesitant to give him up, but if the front office is determine to go this route and rather give up GG than a 1st then I could see it if Val can be rerouted for money savings.

IF we are not going forward with the JJJ renegotiation plan then I would want no part of this trade.

[psman2]

I don't think Memphis would trade GG straight up for JV.

OP knows this. Which is why the value to the Grizzlies is to take Clarke/Konchar back as well so they can raise extend JJJ.

Now I think Memphis can achieve that end without having to sacrifice GG so I would expect them to pass on the OP, but taking on the money is value added that can't be ignored.

but they need to dump them without taking back JV i think if the purpose is to extend JJJ. maybe if they wink wink and do clarke and konchar first, then extend, then take JV into their MLE exception?

IF we extending JJJ we are operating under the cap and won't have the MLE exception. We would have the room exception which is too small to take in Val. I think the goal would be to see if a 3rd would take Val for a much smaller contract or into a TPE/MLE without costing much.

I think right now if the choice comes down to either Clarke/GG or Aldama we are choosing to keep Clarke/GG and let Aldama walk. Still need to dump Konchar but shouldn't be too hard.

[SNPA]

Sac should be looking to get Pippen Jr in any deal with the Grizz.

[psman2]

Sac should be looking to get Pippen Jr in any deal with the Grizz.

Likely not happening. He is Ja's backup and everyone knows Ja is going to miss some games. If his play holds up he is likely a 25+ minute rotation player for us even at full health. He would be value like the Kings fans value Ellis but with two more cheaper years holds more value imo especially to Memphis.

[SNPA]

Sac should be looking to get Pippen Jr in any deal with the Grizz.

Likely not happening. He is Ja's backup and everyone knows Ja is going to miss some games. If his play holds up he is likely a 25+ minute rotation player for us even at full health. He would be value like the Kings fans value Ellis but with two more cheaper years holds more value imo especially to Memphis.

I get that but signing JJJ will mean something’s have to be rearranged. Sac can take Clarke and Konchar and not send back a dime. Same for Pippen.

[psman2]

Sac should be looking to get Pippen Jr in any deal with the Grizz.

Likely not happening. He is Ja's backup and everyone knows Ja is going to miss some games. If his play holds up he is likely a 25+ minute rotation player for us even at full health. He would be value like the Kings fans value Ellis but with two more cheaper years holds more value imo especially to Memphis.

I get that but signing JJJ will mean something’s have to be rearranged. Sac can take Clarke and Konchar and not send back a dime. Same for Pippen.

Great, so can a lot of other teams, plus we don't need to dump them on the same team. Bottom line is we have ways to cut enough salary without hurting our rotation. If it comes down to needing to use guys like GG and/or Pippen to cut salary then we can just let Aldama walk and that solves 85% of our money issues. We give a team max cash and 2-3 2nds and Konchar money is off our books and we have JJJ's max. Still have room exception to add a rotation guy afterwards to take some of Aldama's role.

[LightTheBeam]

Likely not happening. He is Ja's backup and everyone knows Ja is going to miss some games. If his play holds up he is likely a 25+ minute rotation player for us even at full health. He would be value like the Kings fans value Ellis but with two more cheaper years holds more value imo especially to Memphis.

I get that but signing JJJ will mean something’s have to be rearranged. Sac can take Clarke and Konchar and not send back a dime. Same for Pippen.

Great, so can a lot of other teams, plus we don't need to dump them on the same team. Bottom line is we have ways to cut enough salary without hurting our rotation. If it comes down to needing to use guys like GG and/or Pippen to cut salary then we can just let Aldama walk and that solves 85% of our money issues. We give a team max cash and 2-3 2nds and Konchar money is off our books and we have JJJ's max. Still have room exception to add a rotation guy afterwards to take some of Aldama's role.

I agree, Pippen won't be moved.

I'm not saying that you necessarily need to move GG to open money for Aldama, but if thats what it came down to, are you choosing GG over Aldama?

I'd love for the kings to throw the MLE at Aldama

[UnbelievablyRAW]

OP knows this. Which is why the value to the Grizzlies is to take Clarke/Konchar back as well so they can raise extend JJJ.

Now I think Memphis can achieve that end without having to sacrifice GG so I would expect them to pass on the OP, but taking on the money is value added that can't be ignored.

but they need to dump them without taking back JV i think if the purpose is to extend JJJ. maybe if they wink wink and do clarke and konchar first, then extend, then take JV into their MLE exception?

Yeah maybe, I didn't run the numbers. My point to RAW though is that the deal isn't JV for GG, a deal Memphis would have no interest in. This is mostly a money deal. And one I don't think Memphis should make, but its not a GG for JV trade.

Oh I knew it was about the cost saving, the GG point was to highlight him being in it would be a nonstarter for JV if the point is cost savings.

Clarke was a big part of their rotation so it’s not necessarily a straight salary dump without GG in the trade. They’re still replacing a rotation piece for a worse one