Dallas goes nuclear with Hawks and Wolves

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Re: Dallas goes nuclear with Hawks and Wolves 

Post#21 » by Geaux_Hawks » Fri May 30, 2025 2:59 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:Trae has been inefficient from the field his entire career, and league average as a scorer in general, and ATL has been trying to build a team around him unsuccessfully for 7 years due to his defensive limitations, to top it all off, he's expiring.
PJ Washington isn't low end starter, he was the starting PF on a finals team and key part of that team, Gafford is indeed low end starter.

I don't think ATL should do the deal:
They don't own their picks and can't afford to just create a gaping hole at PG.
PJ plays a position they are saturated at.
I do think the deal is short one asset

but I'd love to know what the right package for Trae at his contract status that makes this such a huge underpay.


I don't have the makeup for a Trae Young deal at the moment, but PJ Washington is barely moving the needle(if he is even moving it at all). Would have came out better selling us on Gafford because he at least is more useful. PJ Washington started because he had to. He really belongs on the bench and is likely to be included as salary filler. We would probably need another 2-3 FRP's to even consider the deal.


You can ask for 2-3 more 1sts, but you won't get IMO...
I only watched every Mavs game with PJ, many of them only once, some twice, he was a key player in making that team a finals worthy team and is the perfect role player to fill the modern 4, and he's a significantly better and more useful player than Gafford.
Now, I would never sell him to the Hawks because they have 2 players at his position, but he's not a salary filler, my point wasn't that the Hawks should take that deal, but that the value in the deal isn't far off Trae Young value.


Salary filler may have been a stretch, but he isn't the headliner for a Trae Young deal, despite Trae's contract situation at the moment. Whatever additional value Dallas might offer, isn't worth trading Young. Might as well gamble he doesn't leave us than to go this route.
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Re: Dallas goes nuclear with Hawks and Wolves 

Post#22 » by Bornstellar » Fri May 30, 2025 3:03 pm

This would be an awful return for Young, Atlanta would never do this deal
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Re: Dallas goes nuclear with Hawks and Wolves 

Post#23 » by nomansland » Fri May 30, 2025 3:12 pm

The value may be fair on each of those moves but why would Dallas give up all of that depth for a couple of guys who are never going to take them far in the playoffs?
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Re: Dallas goes nuclear with Hawks and Wolves 

Post#24 » by tcheco » Fri May 30, 2025 3:20 pm

nomansland wrote:The value may be fair on each of those moves but why would Dallas give up all of that depth for a couple of guys who are never going to take them far in the playoffs?

I mean, a team with Young, Irving, Flagg, AD and Gobert is a weird fit, but I would never claim they are NEVER go far in the playoffs before watching it all unfold, even with the rest of the roster being minimum guys... sure it will get clogged in the paint and the guard defense will be below average, but the potencial is there.

That being said, Young is not being traded for that package

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