Spurs/Wolves

[tcheco]

Rudy Gobert isn't making 43 Million per year next year.

My bad

35 millions for an average perimeter defender that cant shoot nor pass is terrible

We can agree to disagree since all the metrics we have for Gobert is he is worth his contract.

Spurs want Wemby primarily at the 5. I don't expect them to invest resources in a Center as good as Gobert given it would cost much more than what the OP has proposed. I do expect the Spurs to invest in a backup Center and someone with good strength for the position.

Gobert is well worth his contract, I agree 100% with you. But in a situation where he plays out of his strenghts? Then its debatable to say the least. Sure it would be nice to have 48 minutes of Wemby + Gobert at the 5, but when Wemby is playing 40 minutes in the playoffs, its 8 minutes per game of Gobert at the 5, and is not worth it for the Spurs to pay that price then.

I do agree, they need a backup center that is strong(Steven Adams would be great if cheap enough), and invest in other areas, spacing, scoring, wing defense.

[wemby]

Rudy Gobert isn't making 43 Million per year next year.

Still 30 million in excess of what his role on the Spurs would warrant. Pass.

[Kineto]

The only MIN-SAS deal that make sense for me is a sign and trade for Naz Read

Maybe for Barnes and some asset (#14 ?)

Reid is a very good fit at the 4 to play with wemby, and he can play 5 when wemby sit.

[BigGargamel]

Wemby needs to play center. The twin towers thing wouldn't really work very well for San Antonio.

And as much as I can't stand Gobert, this really ruins Minnesota up front. You don't want to rely on a Reid/Randle pairing defensively.

[ReggiesKnicks]

The only MIN-SAS deal that make sense for me is a sign and trade for Naz Read

Maybe for Barnes and some asset (#14 ?)

Reid is a very good fit at the 4 to play with wemby, and he can play 5 when wemby sit.

Current draft picks can't be included in a S+T since the draft happens prior to free agency.

Reid could opt in to his player option with an agreement to extend his current contract with San Antonio. He could also opt out and sign with the Spurs.

I think Reid sees himself as a starting-caliber PF and will desire a corresponding salary for a starting-caliber Power Forward. What exactly does this contract look like?

P.J. Washington signed a 3-year, 47 million (16 million AAV)
Kyle Kuzma, DeAndre Hunter, and Dillon Brooks signed for 4-year, 90 million and 4-year, 86 million, respectively, but they are wings. Does a team consider Naz a wing?

Guys like Vanderbilt and Clarke signed for ~12 Million AAV, which seems like 3rd-big money. I think Reid is going to go for somewhere between 16 million and 22 million AAV.

[SkyHook]

Wemby/Gobert wasn't a viable lineup in FIBA conditions. They aren't working in the NBA. Any move that forces the Spurs to play Wemby major minutes next to another center is a no-go. That's why drafting a good backup center at 14 is a sweet spot for me. Ideally, that player can share the court with Wemby and be awesome. But if not, a mid first isn't too much to spend on a 12-18 MPG player. In contrast, Gobert's salary being used for such a player would be really bad.

Haliburton wasn't playable in FIBA, he isn't playable in the NBA.

Tatum wasn't playable either, at least according to Kerr.

[Texas Chuck]

Trying not to respond to extreme takes. So going to ignore some of the usual hyperbole.

I'll stick with saying I'll worry about Wemby playing 40 mpg in the playoffs when the Spurs get him to the playoffs and decide at this early age to risk playing him so much in such high stress basketball. My guess is even with Pops gone, they will not Thibs him, they will take better care of him.

And I disagree you can't play Wemby/Gobert together at all. I mean if you can play Towns/Gobert together to good success, pretty sure you can even though obviously Wemby isn't nearly the shooter Towns is. Defensively it absolutely works.

Could you play 6-8 minutes a half with them together? I think absolutely.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Wemby/Gobert wasn't a viable lineup in FIBA conditions. They aren't working in the NBA. Any move that forces the Spurs to play Wemby major minutes next to another center is a no-go. That's why drafting a good backup center at 14 is a sweet spot for me. Ideally, that player can share the court with Wemby and be awesome. But if not, a mid first isn't too much to spend on a 12-18 MPG player. In contrast, Gobert's salary being used for such a player would be really bad.

Haliburton wasn't playable in FIBA, he isn't playable in the NBA.

Tatum wasn't playable either, at least according to Kerr.

He isn't playable next year either

[SkyHook]

Haliburton wasn't playable in FIBA, he isn't playable in the NBA.

Tatum wasn't playable either, at least according to Kerr.

He isn't playable next year either

COLDBLOODED!

[eric365]

Trying not to respond to extreme takes. So going to ignore some of the usual hyperbole.

I'll stick with saying I'll worry about Wemby playing 40 mpg in the playoffs when the Spurs get him to the playoffs and decide at this early age to risk playing him so much in such high stress basketball. My guess is even with Pops gone, they will not Thibs him, they will take better care of him.

And I disagree you can't play Wemby/Gobert together at all. I mean if you can play Towns/Gobert together to good success, pretty sure you can even though obviously Wemby isn't nearly the shooter Towns is. Defensively it absolutely works.

Could you play 6-8 minutes a half with them together? I think absolutely.

I have watched every single french national team games last year including the preparation

You can play them together and Wemby throw nice pass to Gobert.
The result was the French National team was terrible. The worst I have seen in the last 10 years
And the second Gobert go to the bench it was way better
And the replacing starter wasn’t some all star but Frank Ntilikina / Isaiah Cordinier instead of Evan Fournier / Gobert…

And Spurs won’t pay Gobert big salary when he is such a poor fit with Wemby

[Texas Chuck]

Oh I get the fear of the FIBA games. Of course FIBA and NBA are very different and we see lots of players who succeed way more in one than the other.

Gobert is about as proven an NBA quantity as we have. I hate to hear how little faith some fans have in Wemby to think he couldn't play with him even a little bit.

[One_and_Done]

Spurs get: Gobert/DDV
Wolves get: Vassell/Johnson/14

Why Spurs: Gobert/Wemby is solid pairing up front and clears the way for Harper
Why Wolves: Realized that Gobert is match up dependent in playoffs without right PF. Get a solid wing and lottery pick

Doesn't make sense for either team. Wemby is the Spurs 5. They have no use for Gobert.

[Ethomasp31]

The only MIN-SAS deal that make sense for me is a sign and trade for Naz Read

Maybe for Barnes and some asset (#14 ?)

Reid is a very good fit at the 4 to play with wemby, and he can play 5 when wemby sit.

You can have Naz....what do you want to give up for him?

[One_and_Done]

Trying not to respond to extreme takes. So going to ignore some of the usual hyperbole.

I'll stick with saying I'll worry about Wemby playing 40 mpg in the playoffs when the Spurs get him to the playoffs and decide at this early age to risk playing him so much in such high stress basketball. My guess is even with Pops gone, they will not Thibs him, they will take better care of him.

And I disagree you can't play Wemby/Gobert together at all. I mean if you can play Towns/Gobert together to good success, pretty sure you can even though obviously Wemby isn't nearly the shooter Towns is. Defensively it absolutely works.

Could you play 6-8 minutes a half with them together? I think absolutely.

Talk of them playing '6-8 minutes together' is pointless, because Gobert isn't going to be cool coming off the bench. So while it's technically true you could play them '6-8mpg' together in most match ups, it isn't happening in reality.