Throw KD to the Wolves

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Re: Throw KD to the Wolves 

Post#41 » by Astaluego » Sat May 31, 2025 7:40 am

I'd be happy with Allen in Houston (if they don't go bigger). Suns decline Micic/Martin's options and then send Allen to Houston. Houston sends Landale/A.Holiday several SRPs to someone's cap space..Nets?).. And then I could make this trade?
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Re: Throw KD to the Wolves 

Post#42 » by jscott » Sat May 31, 2025 11:20 am

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PHX has no use on Gobert. How about Randle + Reid (sign and trade) + Dillingham for KD?



God I'd much rather include Naz instead of Rudy. We neeed Rudy's defense and rim protection. I'd like to keep Dillingham too. If we have KD, ANT, Rudy, DDV, JMD, Conley, TSJ, Clark, Dillingham, #17 and #31, i'm on that all day long.


We are talking about KD, if this and that MIN is not willing to give up, it is likely another team will step in and get KD.

Good luck with that. I don’t want him in MN and it seems that largely the sentiment across the league. No one wants to give up value for KD.
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Re: Throw KD to the Wolves 

Post#43 » by Ethomasp31 » Sat May 31, 2025 3:33 pm

jscott wrote:
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God I'd much rather include Naz instead of Rudy. We neeed Rudy's defense and rim protection. I'd like to keep Dillingham too. If we have KD, ANT, Rudy, DDV, JMD, Conley, TSJ, Clark, Dillingham, #17 and #31, i'm on that all day long.


We are talking about KD, if this and that MIN is not willing to give up, it is likely another team will step in and get KD.

Good luck with that. I don’t want him in MN and it seems that largely the sentiment across the league. No one wants to give up value for KD.


Well I disagree with that. KD is probably still a top 10 player in the league next year. Naz is a nice player off the bench at $20-22M a year. He is an overpay at $30M a year and a bad contract who offers little rim protection, turns the ball over too much and get's in foul trouble because he doesn't move his feet. KD can be a number 2 on a championship team...I've seen enough of Naz and Randle to realize they can't. DDV is on a good contract that I wouldn't get rid of....same with JMD. If you pay Naz $30M a year for 3 or 4 years I don't think that is a good contract. I'm not saying that Rudy is a great contract either, but if you lose him you can't go into next season without the rim protection he provides.
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Re: Throw KD to the Wolves 

Post#44 » by jscott » Sat May 31, 2025 3:50 pm

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We are talking about KD, if this and that MIN is not willing to give up, it is likely another team will step in and get KD.

Good luck with that. I don’t want him in MN and it seems that largely the sentiment across the league. No one wants to give up value for KD.


Well I disagree with that. KD is probably still a top 10 player in the league next year. Naz is a nice player off the bench at $20-22M a year. He is an overpay at $30M a year and a bad contract who offers little rim protection, turns the ball over too much and get's in foul trouble because he doesn't move his feet. KD can be a number 2 on a championship team...I've seen enough of Naz and Randle to realize they can't. DDV is on a good contract that I wouldn't get rid of....same with JMD. If you pay Naz $30M a year for 3 or 4 years I don't think that is a good contract. I'm not saying that Rudy is a great contract either, but if you lose him you can't go into next season without the rim protection he provides.

And I don’t think 30 is the number on Naz. I think he’s closer to 22-25.

Still not looking to hand over the farm for KD. He’s not worth it at his age.
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Re: Throw KD to the Wolves 

Post#45 » by Texas Chuck » Sat May 31, 2025 3:55 pm

I disagree nobody wants to give something up for KD. I think he will get moved and the Suns will get clear value.
I also disagree Naz is going to get an AAV of $30M. Minny shouldn't give that to him, Brooklyn absolutely shouldn't give that to him and he can't get it anywhere else without Minny's help, but what team wants him at that number?

We've lost the plot on the guy if we are paying him close to that.
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Re: Throw KD to the Wolves 

Post#46 » by Ethomasp31 » Sat May 31, 2025 4:15 pm

jscott wrote:
Ethomasp31 wrote:
jscott wrote:Good luck with that. I don’t want him in MN and it seems that largely the sentiment across the league. No one wants to give up value for KD.


Well I disagree with that. KD is probably still a top 10 player in the league next year. Naz is a nice player off the bench at $20-22M a year. He is an overpay at $30M a year and a bad contract who offers little rim protection, turns the ball over too much and get's in foul trouble because he doesn't move his feet. KD can be a number 2 on a championship team...I've seen enough of Naz and Randle to realize they can't. DDV is on a good contract that I wouldn't get rid of....same with JMD. If you pay Naz $30M a year for 3 or 4 years I don't think that is a good contract. I'm not saying that Rudy is a great contract either, but if you lose him you can't go into next season without the rim protection he provides.

And I don’t think 30 is the number on Naz. I think he’s closer to 22-25.

Still not looking to hand over the farm for KD. He’s not worth it at his age.


I hardly think that Randle and Naz are the farm.

$20-22M a year for Naz i'm great with....$25M a year and i'm uneasy with it....$30M a year and I'm no bleeping way. Doogie was on a podcast a few days ago where he said the number for Naz was between $30-33M a year and I just about puked.

KD is still good. If I'm able to get him by just losing Randle and Naz, while keeping TSJ, JC, JMD and DDV ...sign me up. Especially if we keep Rudy's rim protection. If we have Naz as our starting center, our defense will be below average next season.

The line up with:
Conley, Ant, JMD, KD and Rudy

and TSJ, JC, Dillingham and DDV off the bench while keeping #17 and 31 would be amazing. I understand there needs to be more included in the trade to make it work and i'm okay with trading some combination of Rudy and Dillingham if it meant getting a younger PG and rim protection.
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Re: Throw KD to the Wolves 

Post#47 » by wolves_89 » Sat May 31, 2025 4:18 pm

I really hope the Wolves don't pursue a Durant trade. KD has declined over the past couple of seasons and at age 37 it seems pretty likely there will be an additional drop off next season. Add in that he is making $54M on an expiring contract (likely looking for an extension which the Wolves should definitely not give him) and I just can't don't see the upside for Minnesota. I don't believe that moving Randle and/or Gobert for Durant makes the Wolves a significantly better team or closer to winning a championship, while a KD extension has the potential to cripple the team going foward.
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Re: Throw KD to the Wolves 

Post#48 » by Michaellam1987 » Sat May 31, 2025 5:27 pm

jscott wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:
Ethomasp31 wrote:

God I'd much rather include Naz instead of Rudy. We neeed Rudy's defense and rim protection. I'd like to keep Dillingham too. If we have KD, ANT, Rudy, DDV, JMD, Conley, TSJ, Clark, Dillingham, #17 and #31, i'm on that all day long.


We are talking about KD, if this and that MIN is not willing to give up, it is likely another team will step in and get KD.

Good luck with that. I don’t want him in MN and it seems that largely the sentiment across the league. No one wants to give up value for KD.


At least Ant wants

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