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Trying this out, but not sure if there's enough incentive for any team to do this.
LAL In: Wiggins, Thybulle
LAL Out: Rui, Knecht, Vincent, Kleber
MIA In: Knecht, Vincent, Kleber
MIA Out: Wiggins
POR In: Rui
POR Out: Thybulle
Rationale
Lakers get 3&D players to pair with Luka without giving up too much. Think Wiggins is a better fit than Rui since he's a decent defender.
Heat get expirings and a young player for Wiggins, but this doesn't make them better.
Blazers get an upgrade over Thybulle (in my opinion). They take on a little money, so maybe they need more value.
LAL In: Wiggins, Thybulle
LAL Out: Rui, Knecht, Vincent, Kleber
MIA In: Knecht, Vincent, Kleber
MIA Out: Wiggins
POR In: Rui
POR Out: Thybulle
Rationale
Lakers get 3&D players to pair with Luka without giving up too much. Think Wiggins is a better fit than Rui since he's a decent defender.
Heat get expirings and a young player for Wiggins, but this doesn't make them better.
Blazers get an upgrade over Thybulle (in my opinion). They take on a little money, so maybe they need more value.
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Lakers are overpaying for Wiggins, whose form has been inconsistent. Portland are stealing value here.
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Pass for POR.
No interest in RH.
No interest in RH.
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I see no reason for the Heat or Blazers to do this. Heat are simply taking back garbage just to say they clearing salary for the 2026 off season. As I mentioned before, just because a team may want to get off of long term salary, that doesn't mean settling for garbage and that's exactly what the Heat would be doing here. On the Blazers side, Matisse Thybulle is much better player for today's NBA than Rui Hachimura and there's no rush to move him, especially for something like this.
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I generally like Rui, but I don’t do this for Portland. Feels like spending $7M extra on a player who isn’t at a position of need. It would be different if Portland traded away Grant. But the starting forwards for Portland should be Camara and Deni. This trade leaves Grant and Rui fighting for minutes and touches off the bench. This is extra bad as Blazers would benefit from a bit of a bounce back from Grant, and this creates an additional barrier to that. Meanwhile, even though Thybulle is often injured, he is the only defense oriented guard on the team. He plays behind a couple others at SG, but his speciality is more needed for this team.
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Rui is a starting quality PF in this league, Thybulle hasn't been rotation quality in 3 years, no reasons to trade onr for the other.
Trade 1 is interesting.
Trade 1 is interesting.
Defense wins draft lotteries!
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I know Portland hasn't been the greatest team the last couple years, but at no point has Thybulle been out of the rotation for any reason besides injury. We love the guy and what he brings, has always seemed to shoot better than his reputation. 36.8% in Portland on 3.6 attempts per game from 3 isn't an elite shooter but not a guy hurting you out there.
If LA prefers Rui that's fine, but to say Thybulle has been unplayable in Portland does not align with the observations or opinions of Blazer fans.
If LA prefers Rui that's fine, but to say Thybulle has been unplayable in Portland does not align with the observations or opinions of Blazer fans.
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Why would Portland do this and add an extra $6M? Knecht is the only player I'm interested in from the Lakers.
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DeBlazerRiddem wrote:I know Portland hasn't been the greatest team the last couple years, but at no point has Thybulle been out of the rotation for any reason besides injury. We love the guy and what he brings, has always seemed to shoot better than his reputation. 36.8% in Portland on 3.6 attempts per game from 3 isn't an elite shooter but not a guy hurting you out there.
If LA prefers Rui that's fine, but to say Thybulle has been unplayable in Portland does not align with the observations or opinions of Blazer fans.
I mean, Thybulle has averaged 24 MPG since he landed in Portland. That's not unplayable, but that's certainly not asking him to play significant minutes.
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facothomas22 wrote:I see no reason for the Heat or Blazers to do this. Heat are simply taking back garbage just to say they clearing salary for the 2026 off season. As I mentioned before, just because a team may want to get off of long term salary, that doesn't mean settling for garbage and that's exactly what the Heat would be doing here. On the Blazers side, Matisse Thybulle is much better player for today's NBA than Rui Hachimura and there's no rush to move him, especially for something like this.
Dalton Knecht isn't garbage. He's why we'd do the trade imo, especially considering we're likely to cut ties with Duncan Robinson. Vincent has his uses as a utility guy, and Kleber is a big body who can shoot.
Pg: Mitchell / Smith / Vincent
Sg: Herro / Knecht / Rozier
Sf: Jacquez / Highsmith / Larsson
Pf: Bam / Jovic / Anderson
Cc: Ware / Kleber
That's not considering our pick this year, free agency (we'll have access to the MLE), and whatever other trades we make.
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Karmaloop wrote:DeBlazerRiddem wrote:I know Portland hasn't been the greatest team the last couple years, but at no point has Thybulle been out of the rotation for any reason besides injury. We love the guy and what he brings, has always seemed to shoot better than his reputation. 36.8% in Portland on 3.6 attempts per game from 3 isn't an elite shooter but not a guy hurting you out there.
If LA prefers Rui that's fine, but to say Thybulle has been unplayable in Portland does not align with the observations or opinions of Blazer fans.
I mean, Thybulle has averaged 24 MPG since he landed in Portland. That's not unplayable, but that's certainly not asking him to play significant minutes.
Playing half the game doesn't count as significant? He's not a starter, I'm not trying to say he is, I was just responding to the allegation that he is not even rotation worthy.
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Take out Rui and Thybulle, no need for Thybulle if we have Vando
Knecht, Maxi, and Gabe for Wiggins is good
Would move Vando insted of one of Maxi/Gabe as well, but feel like his value is a negative with contract. Wiggins deal isnt great though and his playoffs vs CLE werent good.
But framework of deal is Knecht+2 expirings or 1 expiring+Vando and can argue about something like a 2nd
Luka, Wiggins, Bron, Rui, C (mle or trade)
Reaves, DFS, Maxi/Vando
Knecht, Maxi, and Gabe for Wiggins is good
Would move Vando insted of one of Maxi/Gabe as well, but feel like his value is a negative with contract. Wiggins deal isnt great though and his playoffs vs CLE werent good.
But framework of deal is Knecht+2 expirings or 1 expiring+Vando and can argue about something like a 2nd
Luka, Wiggins, Bron, Rui, C (mle or trade)
Reaves, DFS, Maxi/Vando
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