Which of these MPJ trades is the most realistic?

[GatherStepGuru]

How about the Bulls? They need a wing

Nuggets out:
-MPJ
-2nd

Bulls out:
- Pat Williams
- Kevin Huerter

[BelgradeNugget]

How about the Bulls? They need a wing

Nuggets out:
-MPJ
-2nd

Bulls out:
- Pat Williams
- Kevin Huerter

he, he, Pat Williams is really, really bad player on a really, really bad contract and it is not secret. MPJ is shooting better from 3 than him from 2.

[BigGargamel]

All big downgrades in talent for Nuggets. MPj is overpaid but better than all players mentioned here

These MPJ trade offers are almost always terrible.

The guy is 26 years old, doesn't miss a game, shoots 50/40/77, rebounds well and at least tries on defense. Denver desperately needs the shooting he provides.

It's like people can never just look past the contract and realize they aren't trading him for junk. I mean look at the Bulls offer posted above me for Christ sake. Turning one good player into two terrible players for "depth" isn't something the Nuggets are going to do.

Porter is a pretty good player making a bit too much money. He's not going to be given away just so the Nuggets can "do something".

[BelgradeNugget]

All big downgrades in talent for Nuggets. MPj is overpaid but better than all players mentioned here

These MPJ trade offers are almost always terrible.

The guy is 26 years old, doesn't miss a game, shoots 50/40/77, rebounds well and at least tries on defense. Denver desperately needs the shooting he provides.

It's like people can never just look past the contract and realize they aren't trading him for junk. I mean look at the Bulls offer posted above me for Christ sake. Turning one good player into two terrible players for "depth" isn't something the Nuggets are going to do.

Porter is a pretty good player making a bit too much money. He's not going to be given away just so the Nuggets can "do something".

He, he I already answered on that Bulls proposal
Anyway he is not even such a bad contract any more, it is next year + 1. After next season he is expiring. The best thing that can hapened to Nuggets is Saric and Westbrook opting in. Then, Nuggets will have 5 players, all in all $17M in expiring contracts (counting Watson, I would't trade him if not big upgrade), 2031 1st to upgrade bench. And they still have starting 5 that won their minutes vs OKC

[vege]

On the court, is MPJ even an upgrade on Tobias Harris next season?

He is a big downgrade over Tobias for Detroit in particular.

He is a much better shooter (which is obviously important) but Tobias is better at pretty much everything else.

Tobias can create his own offense which is very important to relief some pressure off Cade and Tobias is a very good and versatile defender while MPJ is bad on that side of the floor.

MPJ to Detroit makes no sense. He doesn't make sense for Orlando or Portland FWIW and Miami should not give up their cap space plan in order to acquire him.