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Post#1 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:19 pm

My attenpt at a garland to Minny trade

Minnesota trade: Gobert, DDV, Conley, 31
Minnesota receive: Garland, Bitadze

Memphis trade: Bane
Memphis receive: Gobert, DDV

Cleveland trade: Garland, Okoro
Cleveland receive: Bane, Conley

Orlando: Anthony, Bitadze, 25
Orlando in: Sexton, 31

Utah out: Sexton
Utah in: Okoro, Anthony, 25

Why for Minny: Shake things up and get an allstar caliber PG
Why for Memphis: bolster front court in light of Edeys injury, DDV gives them a starting caliber SG
Why for Cleveland: upgrade size & defense in SL, Conley has experience with Mitchell and gives them PG depth
Why for Orlando: upgrade offense
Why for Utah: get a pick and wing defender for sexton

Technically 2 separate trades but wanted to do it altogether..
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Post#2 » by Mr Loggins » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:33 pm

I like it for Cle and Minnesota.

Memphis would be making the mistake of trading young for old, so I think they would be the fly in the ointment

Utah and Orl: seems ok?
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Post#3 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:35 pm

Minnesota would cut everyone out and just do Gobert/DDV for Bane. Then they can figure out what do at Center, but McDaniels could probably get them a Jarrett Allen level Center while Rande could get something like Vuc/White or similar tier player(s).

Memphis already has JJJ/Edey/Clarke/Aldama who can eat up Center minutes and limited wing-talent. I am not sure they want to put more eggs in the Center basket while trading a player of Bane's caliber for this.

Easy yes for Cleveland.

Orlando moves down 5 spots and upgrades from Cole Anthony to Sexton? Seems like an easy yes.

If Utah is trying to compete in any capacity they would prefer the Orlando package (Bitadze) over Okoro.
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Post#4 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:38 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Minnesota would cut everyone out and just do Gobert/DDV for Bane. Then they can figure out what do at Center, but McDaniels could probably get them a Jarrett Allen level Center while Rande could get something like Vuc/White or similar tier player(s).

Memphis already has JJJ/Edey/Clarke/Aldama who can eat up Center minutes and limited wing-talent. I am not sure they want to put more eggs in the Center basket while trading a player of Bane's caliber for this.

Easy yes for Cleveland.

Orlando moves down 5 spots and upgrades from Cole Anthony to Sexton? Seems like an easy yes.

If Utah is trying to compete in any capacity they would prefer the Orlando package (Bitadze) over Okoro.


Bane and Anthony seems like a big overlap? they need a PG more than Bane imo (hence garland swap).

Edey is a bigggggg question mark after his latest injury (out 6+ months!). Clarke will likely be dumped to make room for JJJ's reneg

Utah already has kessler at C and lack wing D more imo
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Post#5 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:43 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:Minnesota would cut everyone out and just do Gobert/DDV for Bane. Then they can figure out what do at Center, but McDaniels could probably get them a Jarrett Allen level Center while Rande could get something like Vuc/White or similar tier player(s).

Memphis already has JJJ/Edey/Clarke/Aldama who can eat up Center minutes and limited wing-talent. I am not sure they want to put more eggs in the Center basket while trading a player of Bane's caliber for this.

Easy yes for Cleveland.

Orlando moves down 5 spots and upgrades from Cole Anthony to Sexton? Seems like an easy yes.

If Utah is trying to compete in any capacity they would prefer the Orlando package (Bitadze) over Okoro.


Bane and Anthony seems like a big overlap? they need a PG more than Bane imo (hence garland swap).

Edey is a bigggggg question mark after his latest injury (out 6+ months!). Clarke will likely be dumped to make room for JJJ's reneg

Utah already has kessler at C and lack wing D more imo


Minnesota would still have Dillingham/Conley for another year.

Bane is a better player than Garland who has far less weaknesses.
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Post#6 » by QMemphis » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:26 pm

Grizz pass on this no need for Rudy especially at the expense of Des.
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Post#7 » by esvl » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:33 pm

Memphis will resign Bagley and patiently wait for Edey’s return rather than pay such a huge return for two old players.
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Post#8 » by toooskies » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:40 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:Minnesota would cut everyone out and just do Gobert/DDV for Bane. Then they can figure out what do at Center, but McDaniels could probably get them a Jarrett Allen level Center while Rande could get something like Vuc/White or similar tier player(s).

Memphis already has JJJ/Edey/Clarke/Aldama who can eat up Center minutes and limited wing-talent. I am not sure they want to put more eggs in the Center basket while trading a player of Bane's caliber for this.

Easy yes for Cleveland.

Orlando moves down 5 spots and upgrades from Cole Anthony to Sexton? Seems like an easy yes.

If Utah is trying to compete in any capacity they would prefer the Orlando package (Bitadze) over Okoro.


Bane and Anthony seems like a big overlap? they need a PG more than Bane imo (hence garland swap).

Edey is a bigggggg question mark after his latest injury (out 6+ months!). Clarke will likely be dumped to make room for JJJ's reneg

Utah already has kessler at C and lack wing D more imo


Minnesota would still have Dillingham/Conley for another year.

Bane is a better player than Garland who has far less weaknesses.

Bane has a small wingspan for a SG, isn't good enough of a playmaker to be your PG, and is no better of a shooter than Garland. He's effectively locked into playing the 2, which he is very good at, but he isn't versatile. He's a very good player to have but he's miscast as an offensive engine, whereas Garland can be your primary playmaker.

It's fine to say they're roughly equal or even that you have a preference for Bane but I don't see a case for Bane being strictly better.

As far as Cavs fit goes, I'm not sure Mitchell is a point guard and I don't love forcing that role on him. I might not be a "no" but I think pretty hard on this one.
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Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Mon Jun 9, 2025 3:04 pm

toooskies wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Bane and Anthony seems like a big overlap? they need a PG more than Bane imo (hence garland swap).

Edey is a bigggggg question mark after his latest injury (out 6+ months!). Clarke will likely be dumped to make room for JJJ's reneg

Utah already has kessler at C and lack wing D more imo


Minnesota would still have Dillingham/Conley for another year.

Bane is a better player than Garland who has far less weaknesses.

Bane has a small wingspan for a SG, isn't good enough of a playmaker to be your PG, and is no better of a shooter than Garland. He's effectively locked into playing the 2, which he is very good at, but he isn't versatile. He's a very good player to have but he's miscast as an offensive engine, whereas Garland can be your primary playmaker.

It's fine to say they're roughly equal or even that you have a preference for Bane but I don't see a case for Bane being strictly better.

As far as Cavs fit goes, I'm not sure Mitchell is a point guard and I don't love forcing that role on him. I might not be a "no" but I think pretty hard on this one.


Bane is top heavy as well. He's a good defender against guards who like to play physically, but if you can get him switched onto quicker guys, he has all kinds of problems.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#10 » by tidho » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:51 pm

Not excited about this one for CLE, but the value for them is probably fair. The last thing this deal needs is another team, but would like it a lot more if there was a Bane-equivalent F coming back to CLE instead of him.
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Post#11 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:54 pm

tidho wrote:Not excited about this one for CLE, but the value for them is probably fair. The last thing this deal needs is another team, but would like it a lot more if there was a Bane-equivalent F coming back to CLE instead of him.


Julius Randle?
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Post#12 » by tidho » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:17 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
tidho wrote:Not excited about this one for CLE, but the value for them is probably fair. The last thing this deal needs is another team, but would like it a lot more if there was a Bane-equivalent F coming back to CLE instead of him.


Julius Randle?


Not sure how that would work for MIN with Edwards already there, but yes something like that.
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Post#13 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:40 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:Minnesota would cut everyone out and just do Gobert/DDV for Bane. Then they can figure out what do at Center, but McDaniels could probably get them a Jarrett Allen level Center while Rande could get something like Vuc/White or similar tier player(s).

Memphis already has JJJ/Edey/Clarke/Aldama who can eat up Center minutes and limited wing-talent. I am not sure they want to put more eggs in the Center basket while trading a player of Bane's caliber for this.

Easy yes for Cleveland.

Orlando moves down 5 spots and upgrades from Cole Anthony to Sexton? Seems like an easy yes.

If Utah is trying to compete in any capacity they would prefer the Orlando package (Bitadze) over Okoro.


Bane and Anthony seems like a big overlap? they need a PG more than Bane imo (hence garland swap).

Edey is a bigggggg question mark after his latest injury (out 6+ months!). Clarke will likely be dumped to make room for JJJ's reneg

Utah already has kessler at C and lack wing D more imo

Which means it could be a 3 team deal, I think. Would Cleveland do Bane for Garland?
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Post#14 » by esvl » Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:57 am

toooskies wrote:Bane is no better of a shooter than Garland.

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