Bos/Cle/Bkn: Jrue, Garland, #8

[Texas Chuck]

also cap sheets has Atlanta's TPE at $25m, the biggest league wide by far (second is Lavine's TPE in chicago at 17m). so if we are talking about accepting either of Jrue or KP into cap space, or a megaworld were Boston so inclined both of them, im pretty sure the Nets are in fact the only game in town without getting very complicated multi-team?

Yes if we are overly restrictive to a deal in which Boston wants to send out KP and Jrue and take back no salary at all, the Nets are the only game in town.

They don't need to do that though so....

[Djh7475]

It’s hard to put an exact value on Jrue (fans seem to like him much less than I expect front offices would), but if the Celtics can wipe his contract off the books without including any asset, they do it. It drastically simplifies getting/staying below the 2nd apron and makes a path to getting out of the tax altogether more feasible.

[BK_2020]

Deleting Jrue's salary won't accomplish much for Boston in terms of the big picture. They may dip under the tax but will have 5 rotation players including Porzingis who may not come back in the 26-27 season. So what do they do for 26-27? Add a guy with the MLE and you have Tatum, Brown, White, Pritchard, plus a Josh Okogie or something. That's not a contending team.

While getting under the tax, they also need to break up their big salaries into a bunch of small salaries and get draft assets. Spend the next 2 years finding and developing cost-controlled rotation players. That's the only way they can contend from 27-28 to whenever Tatum begins to suck.

[JKiddy]

How serious is Garland's injury? I cannot see any team trading for him until he is months out of surgery and progressing in rehab.

[jbk1234]

How serious is Garland's injury? I cannot see any team trading for him until he is months out of surgery and progressing in rehab.

It's not serious in the sense that he's expected to make a full recovery. It is serious in the sense that he won't be able to pass a physical before July 1st or the draft. It's difficult to see a trade before the season starts, and it will be much harder to execute once it has.

[JKiddy]

The Nets likely won't trade for an injured player. They especially won't give up their first lotto pick in FOREVER for them if his name is not Giannis or Luka.

[Netaman]

also cap sheets has Atlanta's TPE at $25m, the biggest league wide by far (second is Lavine's TPE in chicago at 17m). so if we are talking about accepting either of Jrue or KP into cap space, or a megaworld were Boston so inclined both of them, im pretty sure the Nets are in fact the only game in town without getting very complicated multi-team?

Yes if we are overly restrictive to a deal in which Boston wants to send out KP and Jrue and take back no salary at all, the Nets are the only game in town.

They don't need to do that though so....

of course they don't need to do that, but surely you can agree that it is obviously a lot simpler for them, and positive value, to do so. wake up tomorrow and KP is gone with a nice 30m TPE sitting there that they can use next offseason when Tatum is due back, plus a bunch of cash saved, for an injury prone expiring player unlikely to bring much back beyond salary match?

they can keep Jrue until a deal worth doing comes along, same with Hauser. No need to include assets to move anyone else. that seems clearly worth more than some 2nds to me (which would be a nonstarter for nets since they have a boatload of them).

im partial to believing that most trades fall into a range where it's not quite a no brainer for either team. If Boston had on the table a pure KP dump into cap space to the nets for a lotto protected 2027 FRP, i think they'd have to consider that. Best case they are back to being a playoff team and weren't forced to move anyone they didn't want to. And converted a late first into a big TPE they can use in June 2026 but not pay tax on in 2025 for a lot of $ savings. It is almost certain they'd be able to use that TPE to take on a player similar to KP right now. Worst case they end up lotto again and pick moves forward to another year when they are back in playoffs.

heck i could see the nets being willing to trade one of their late firsts this year to get more favorable protections, in which case Boston may not even be "trading down" by much with the 2027 pick they give up if they are willing to take some risk. With Tatum back they could easily be picking #26/27 in 2027 and they got 2 extra dev years from a player in this year's class. mid-20's firsts aren't that valuable so i could see the nets not having much problem kicking one in since they are highly unlikely to roster 5 rookies this year, and also why i could see the celtics being willing to entertain trading a 2 years out likely-20's protected first to save a boatload of money all at once vs a bunch of less clean deals swapping contracts.

[bgrep14]

I still think the best Garland trade is just a two part with Brooklyn

Part 1: TPE for Okoro

Part 2: Garland for Johnson, 8, and whatever Knicks future first they want to give.

[hugepatsfan]

Deleting Jrue's salary won't accomplish much for Boston in terms of the big picture. They may dip under the tax but will have 5 rotation players including Porzingis who may not come back in the 26-27 season. So what do they do for 26-27? Add a guy with the MLE and you have Tatum, Brown, White, Pritchard, plus a Josh Okogie or something. That's not a contending team.

While getting under the tax, they also need to break up their big salaries into a bunch of small salaries and get draft assets. Spend the next 2 years finding and developing cost-controlled rotation players. That's the only way they can contend from 27-28 to whenever Tatum begins to suck.

They would create a TPE here that they can use. Think about how it's a real possibility that we end up dumping Hauser into a TPE/MLE for some 2nds or even just for nothing but savings... next year if they had a Holiday-sized TPE they could be the team acquiring those type of guys. I think with the new apron penalties there will always be some opportunity like that.

[jbk1234]

I still think the best Garland trade is just a two part with Brooklyn

Part 1: TPE for Okoro

Part 2: Garland for Johnson, 8, and whatever Knicks future first they want to give.

If you're trading Garland for Cam, you probably want to hold onto Okoro.