Boston - SAS - Toronto - Brooklyn

[facothomas22]

The Nets already have a pick in the 8-10 range. Unless it's there's player really high on for both picks 8 and 9 that they know they can't get at pick 19, there's no reason for the Nets to do this. Most likely, If the Nets decide to move picks, it's ether attract the picks they have in order to move or use those picks to try to get a Star.

[Godaddycurse]

Shamelessly expanding/borrowing Reggiesknicks' idea again

Brooklyn trade: CamJ, 19, 36
Brookyln receive: Barrett, 9

SAS trade: Johnson, 14, 38
SAS receive: CamJ, Hauser (into MLE), 28

Toronto trade: Barrett, Agbaji, 9
Toronto receive: Holiday, 14, 19, 36

Boston trade: Holiday, Hauser, 28
Boston receive: Johnson, Agbaji, 38

Why for Brooklyn: move up for another mid lotto pick as rumored
Why for SAS: surround wemby with lethal shooters
Why for Toronto: get a better fitting albeit older SG in their starting lineup. trade back to acquire more front court depth
Why for Boston: save lots of money

I think Spurs are stealing value here from Boston. I'd remove the 28 for 38 part and change to:


Brooklyn trade: CamJ
Brookyln receive: Holiday, 14

SAS trade: Johnson, 14
SAS receive: CamJ, Hauser (into MLE)

Boston trade: Holiday, Hauser
Boston receive: Johnson

Brooklyn wants the 9th pick... Dont think they want holiday

[Godaddycurse]

The Nets already have a pick in the 8-10 range. Unless it's there's player really high on for both picks 8 and 9 that they know they can't get at pick 19, there's no reason for the Nets to do this. Most likely, If the Nets decide to move picks, it's ether attract the picks they have in order to move or use those picks to try to get a Star.

Well reason is they are rumored to want to do it... They can like more than one prospect in the top 10

[zimpy27]

Shamelessly expanding/borrowing Reggiesknicks' idea again

Brooklyn trade: CamJ, 19, 36
Brookyln receive: Barrett, 9

SAS trade: Johnson, 14, 38
SAS receive: CamJ, Hauser (into MLE), 28

Toronto trade: Barrett, Agbaji, 9
Toronto receive: Holiday, 14, 19, 36

Boston trade: Holiday, Hauser, 28
Boston receive: Johnson, Agbaji, 38

Why for Brooklyn: move up for another mid lotto pick as rumored
Why for SAS: surround wemby with lethal shooters
Why for Toronto: get a better fitting albeit older SG in their starting lineup. trade back to acquire more front court depth
Why for Boston: save lots of money

I think Spurs are stealing value here from Boston. I'd remove the 28 for 38 part and change to:


Brooklyn trade: CamJ
Brookyln receive: Holiday, 14

SAS trade: Johnson, 14
SAS receive: CamJ, Hauser (into MLE)

Boston trade: Holiday, Hauser
Boston receive: Johnson

Brooklyn wants the 9th pick... Dont think they want holiday

Right, they could make the extra deal with Raptors. Just wanted to simplify it to 3

[Tripod]

Nets don't need RJ, and the deal is too generous to Toronto and hoses Boston. It's not bad for the Spurs, if they can't get anything better for 14.

Yeah....too generous to Toronto.

They give up the highest pick, the highest PPG, and a cheap 40% 3+D guy.

Not a chance Raps do this.

[One_and_Done]

Nets don't need RJ, and the deal is too generous to Toronto and hoses Boston. It's not bad for the Spurs, if they can't get anything better for 14.

Yeah....too generous to Toronto.

They give up the highest pick, the highest PPG, and a cheap 40% 3+D guy.

Not a chance Raps do this.

Jrue is more valuable than everything Toronto is trading, and then they're getting 3 picks on top of that.

[Godaddycurse]

Nets don't need RJ, and the deal is too generous to Toronto and hoses Boston. It's not bad for the Spurs, if they can't get anything better for 14.

Yeah....too generous to Toronto.

They give up the highest pick, the highest PPG, and a cheap 40% 3+D guy.

Not a chance Raps do this.

Jrue is more valuable than everything Toronto is trading, and then they're getting 3 picks on top of that.

Toronto is trading the most valuable piece in the whole deal (#9). Jrue is a salary dump/not worth more than expirings at this point. You're crazy if you think Jrue is worth a mid lotto pick

[One_and_Done]

Yeah....too generous to Toronto.

They give up the highest pick, the highest PPG, and a cheap 40% 3+D guy.

Not a chance Raps do this.

Jrue is more valuable than everything Toronto is trading, and then they're getting 3 picks on top of that.

Toronto is trading the most valuable piece in the whole deal (#9). Jrue is a salary dump/not worth more than expirings at this point. You're crazy if you think Jrue is worth a mid lotto pick

Jrue is being moved because of 2nd apron concerns, not because he's suddenly a negative asset.

[Godaddycurse]

Jrue is more valuable than everything Toronto is trading, and then they're getting 3 picks on top of that.

Toronto is trading the most valuable piece in the whole deal (#9). Jrue is a salary dump/not worth more than expirings at this point. You're crazy if you think Jrue is worth a mid lotto pick

Jrue is being moved because of 2nd apron concerns, not because he's suddenly a negative asset.

He is negative because his play (esp on offense) took a big dive last year, he is 35 and has 3 years left on his deal. Still productive on the floor due to his defense but not worth 105M/3 yrs at this point in his career

[Tripod]

Nets don't need RJ, and the deal is too generous to Toronto and hoses Boston. It's not bad for the Spurs, if they can't get anything better for 14.

Yeah....too generous to Toronto.

They give up the highest pick, the highest PPG, and a cheap 40% 3+D guy.

Not a chance Raps do this.

Jrue is more valuable than everything Toronto is trading, and then they're getting 3 picks on top of that.

You really think 35 year old Dru gets #9, a 20+ pt scorer and a 25 year old 40% 3pt shooter?

Be prepared to he shocked when traded.

[One_and_Done]

Yeah....too generous to Toronto.

They give up the highest pick, the highest PPG, and a cheap 40% 3+D guy.

Not a chance Raps do this.

Jrue is more valuable than everything Toronto is trading, and then they're getting 3 picks on top of that.

You really think 35 year old Dru gets #9, a 20+ pt scorer and a 25 year old 40% 3pt shooter?

Be prepared to he shocked when traded.

I mean, the only asset I'm interested in is the #9 pick. For Toronto it doesn't make sense, because they should be rebuilding, but I could see win now teams paying this much. Jrue did drop off a little last year, but he's much better than his stats indicate. He just has a lesser role on a deep team.

For this particular trade Toronto is given a bunch of other picks, so it might make sense to do it. Of course Boston won't be.

[Tripod]

Jrue is more valuable than everything Toronto is trading, and then they're getting 3 picks on top of that.

You really think 35 year old Dru gets #9, a 20+ pt scorer and a 25 year old 40% 3pt shooter?

Be prepared to he shocked when traded.

I mean, the only asset I'm interested in is the #9 pick. For Toronto it doesn't make sense, because they should be rebuilding, but I could see win now teams paying this much. Jrue did drop off a little last year, but he's much better than his stats indicate. He just has a lesser role on a deep team.

For this particular trade Toronto is given a bunch of other picks, so it might make sense to do it. Of course Boston won't be.

Drue just turned 35 and has 3 more years on a contract averaging 35 million the next 3 years.

His FG% dropped 4% and his 3% dropped 7.5%. That has nothing to do with "lesser role on a deep team". That's signs of decline.

Let's see what Drue actually gets traded for. It won't be close to a top 10 pick.

[Larry_Russell]

Shamelessly expanding/borrowing Reggiesknicks' idea again

Brooklyn trade: CamJ, 19, 36
Brookyln receive: Barrett, 9

SAS trade: Johnson, 14, 38
SAS receive: CamJ, Hauser (into MLE), 28

Toronto trade: Barrett, Agbaji, 9
Toronto receive: Holiday, 14, 19, 36

Boston trade: Holiday, Hauser, 28
Boston receive: Johnson, Agbaji, 38

Why for Brooklyn: move up for another mid lotto pick as rumored
Why for SAS: surround wemby with lethal shooters
Why for Toronto: get a better fitting albeit older SG in their starting lineup. trade back to acquire more front court depth
Why for Boston: save lots of money

Like it for boston.

gets back a servicable player and sheds money.



But honestly, I would be fine with Jrue for RJ swap.
Trade sheds some salary for Boston on its own. (4.6 million)

I firmly believe that hauser can easily be flipped for just a pick and no salary (another 10 mill saved)

Only need to shed around 8 mill more to be under the 2nd apron (Tillman and Davidson add up to 5 million)
Trading KP should save the rest.

[Larry_Russell]

You really think 35 year old Dru gets #9, a 20+ pt scorer and a 25 year old 40% 3pt shooter?

Be prepared to he shocked when traded.

I mean, the only asset I'm interested in is the #9 pick. For Toronto it doesn't make sense, because they should be rebuilding, but I could see win now teams paying this much. Jrue did drop off a little last year, but he's much better than his stats indicate. He just has a lesser role on a deep team.

For this particular trade Toronto is given a bunch of other picks, so it might make sense to do it. Of course Boston won't be.

Drue just turned 35 and has 3 more years on a contract averaging 35 million the next 3 years.

His FG% dropped 4% and his 3% dropped 7.5%. That has nothing to do with "lesser role on a deep team". That's signs of decline.

Let's see what Drue actually gets traded for. It won't be close to a top 10 pick.

He had an injured hand this year that impacted his shooting.

Jrue is still a beast.

[Larry_Russell]

You really think 35 year old Dru gets #9, a 20+ pt scorer and a 25 year old 40% 3pt shooter?

Be prepared to he shocked when traded.

I mean, the only asset I'm interested in is the #9 pick. For Toronto it doesn't make sense, because they should be rebuilding, but I could see win now teams paying this much. Jrue did drop off a little last year, but he's much better than his stats indicate. He just has a lesser role on a deep team.

For this particular trade Toronto is given a bunch of other picks, so it might make sense to do it. Of course Boston won't be.

Drue just turned 35 and has 3 more years on a contract averaging 35 million the next 3 years.

His FG% dropped 4% and his 3% dropped 7.5%. That has nothing to do with "lesser role on a deep team". That's signs of decline.

Let's see what Drue actually gets traded for. It won't be close to a top 10 pick.

He had an injured hand this year that impacted his shooting.

Jrue is still a beast, not worth the number 9, but worth RJ Barrett.

[Chinook]

I've never been a fan of Cam, and I wouldn't use the MLE on Hauser when they need a backup center. I don't hate the Spurs doing Cam and 27 for Barnes and 14. I don't like it, but the Spurs might. If they wanted to do this deal, they could throw another second at Brooklyn to take Branham, and use Malaki's contract to match Hauser. That would preserve their MLE for a center.

The reality is with Castle and Vassell likely to get SF minutes and Sochan on the team, it's really Cam or Sam, not both. It's why the Spurs just drafting a combo-forward at 14 makes the most sense.

[TheNetsFan]

I think dropping the movement of all the late picks (26, 36 and 38) improves the balance.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Value wise if Queen, Fears, Jakucionis and Maluach are all off the board I might consider this if I am Toronto. However paying a 35 year old Jrue Holiday $32, $34 & $37 million for his his next three seasons is a bit worrisome. Just wondering who your projecting Toronto to take at #14 and #19? I think Masai would look at Wolf with one of the picks and maybe they take Clayton or Coward for their shooting.

If we remove #19 in the deal like people are suggesting Toronto easily says no thank you. I honestly don't see how Jrue plus #14 & #19 fits this team over RJ plus #9. Toronto needs a high end prospect not to go after aging stars not named KD