Cleveland - Portland - Brooklyn - Orlando

[JRoy]

Yuck, I don't have Simons as a positive contract. I don't have him as better than Ty. We don't save money. We don't get better defensively. We just get worse offensively. Scoot isn't even a replacement level PG. He averaged less than 13 ppg.

Can CLE even resign Ty?

CLE needs an upgrade but won’t get a difference maker without moving a core piece.

Not saying this is the right move necessarily but they need to make a change.

The Cavs won 64 games last year. The East will be worse in 26 than it was in 25. They don’t need to make a trade.

Tatum and Embiid will be out, sure. You don’t see IND as a problem?

[jbk1234]

I don't love the deal, but feel this one should be limited to Portland and Cleveland:

Cleveland receive: Simons, Scoot, 11
Portland receive: Garland

If the other teams want to work on separate deals, they can knock themselves out.

Yuck, I don't have Simons as a positive contract. I don't have him as better than Ty. We don't save money. We don't get better defensively. We just get worse offensively. Scoot isn't even a replacement level PG. He averaged less than 13 ppg.

Can CLE even resign Ty?

CLE needs an upgrade but won’t get a difference maker without moving a core piece.

Not saying this is the right move necessarily but they need to make a change.

They can re-sign Ty. Whether it would be a good idea to add to the current payroll is another matter.

Do the Cavs need to upgrade or do they need to be healthy? They lost to the Celtics with Mitchell out and the Pacers with Garland out/hobbled. In any event, this is a flat downgrade.

[JRoy]

Yuck, I don't have Simons as a positive contract. I don't have him as better than Ty. We don't save money. We don't get better defensively. We just get worse offensively. Scoot isn't even a replacement level PG. He averaged less than 13 ppg.

Can CLE even resign Ty?

CLE needs an upgrade but won’t get a difference maker without moving a core piece.

Not saying this is the right move necessarily but they need to make a change.

They can re-sign Ty. Whether it would be a good idea to add to the current payroll is another matter.

Do the Cavs need to upgrade or do they need to be healthy? They lost to the Celtics with Mitchell out and the Pacers with Garland out/hobbled. In any event, this is a flat downgrade.

True on both counts.

Sounds like the plan is to run it back and hope for better health.

[tidho]

The Cavs won 64 games last year. The East will be worse in 26 than it was in 25. They don’t need to make a trade.

Trading for developmental players and draft picks is not something the Cavs are going to do. They won 64 games this year and are expecting to play better in the playoffs next year.

Not sure where comments like there are really coming from. Oh they're "expecting to play better in the playoffs", well what a relief, lol. -OR- they could actually do something to ensure they're better prepared to actually play better in the playoffs. Avdija isn't a scrub, if you could actually pull him with Scoot (who would fit in nicely as a bench facilitator) it's something you have to look at.

Not suggesting it's easy but they need to be evaluating options.

[toooskies]

The Cavs won 64 games last year. The East will be worse in 26 than it was in 25. They don’t need to make a trade.

Trading for developmental players and draft picks is not something the Cavs are going to do. They won 64 games this year and are expecting to play better in the playoffs next year.

Not sure where comments like there are really coming from. Oh they're "expecting to play better in the playoffs", well what a relief, lol. -OR- they could actually do something to ensure they're better prepared to actually play better in the playoffs. Avdija isn't a scrub, if you could actually pull him with Scoot (who would fit in nicely as a bench facilitator) it's something you have to look at.

Not suggesting it's easy but they need to be evaluating options.

You expect a young team to continue to get better, particularly at playoff execution. Yes, you evaluate trade options. But you also don’t change for the sake of change. 64 wins is, historically, a lot.

The team didn’t break down because of fit or effort or whatever. They broke down because our point guard was injured the whole series and two other key players missed time and weren’t 100% when they came back.

Avdija’s just a year behind Garland and has never made the playoffs. He has all of the matchup lessons and intensity scaling to learn that our guys have already started in on. He might be the right shape of human that you want playing in the playoffs but you know nothing about how he’ll hold up. You could be setting the team back years.

If Portland would even consider such a deal, which they probably shouldn’t.

[jbk1234]

The Cavs won 64 games last year. The East will be worse in 26 than it was in 25. They don’t need to make a trade.

Trading for developmental players and draft picks is not something the Cavs are going to do. They won 64 games this year and are expecting to play better in the playoffs next year.

Not sure where comments like there are really coming from. Oh they're "expecting to play better in the playoffs", well what a relief, lol. -OR- they could actually do something to ensure they're better prepared to actually play better in the playoffs. Avdija isn't a scrub, if you could actually pull him with Scoot (who would fit in nicely as a bench facilitator) it's something you have to look at.

Not suggesting it's easy but they need to be evaluating options.

There's no pulling Deni with Scoot. Deni would be the centerpiece or there would be no trade. Scoot went from borderline unplayable to passable. He has yet to show that he can sustain starting caliber PG play.

[Tim Lehrbach]

The OP is a good player at a fair price for the Blazers. I struggle whether such a move makes sense directionally, but it is certainly an upgrade in the backcourt, which should be and probably is the front office's highest priority if trying to win now.

[jbk1234]

The OP is a good player at a fair price for the Blazers. I struggle whether such a move makes sense directionally, but it is certainly an upgrade in the backcourt, which should be and probably is the front office's highest priority if trying to win now.

The O.P. is awful for the Cavs. Let's just downgrade for a pick isn't something they'd consider this summer.

The Blazers really gambled by holding Simons for as long as they did and they lost that gamble when Orlando traded for Bane. They held Grant and Timelord for too long as well and now they're going to be hard to move for value. I suspect their F.O. is on borrowed time now that the team is up for sale.

[bgrep14]

Maybe Simons, Advija, 11 for Okoro and Garland.

[tester551]

Maybe Simons, Advija, 11 for Okoro and Garland.

No.

[JRoy]

Maybe Simons, Advija, 11 for Okoro and Garland.

No thanks from POR.

[Tim Lehrbach]

The Blazers really gambled by holding Simons for as long as they did and they lost that gamble when Orlando traded for Bane. They held Grant and Timelord for too long as well and now they're going to be hard to move for value.

This assumes a lot. Blazers fans often say the same things. We have no way of knowing whether (a) the Blazers wanted to move these contracts for assets and (b) there were any opportunities out there that the Blazers squandered. I happen to think, and have said many times, that Portland was never getting picks back for these guys.