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Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#1 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:40 am

Borrowing an idea from jayjaysee..

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Brook would be agreeing to go to whichever team gave him the biggest one year salary? He already made a lot of money and just wanted to play video games, but get another 22-24 million, most likely get waived after one year and then sign wherever you want for 2026-2027..

Just playing with creating matching salary for Milwaukee. Whether they add their distant first or just look at taking back an overpaid 30-34 dollar-but-talented player adding in Connaughton and vet mins..




Milwaukee trade: Lopez (23M yr 1 guaranteed only S&T), Kuzma, Connaughton
Milwaukee receive: Beal, 2028 PHX 1st (worst of many teams), second(s) from SAS

Phoenix trade: Beal, 2028 PHX 1st (worst of many teams)
Phoenix receive: Grant, Williams

Portland trade: Grant, Williams
Portland receive: Kuzma, Johnson, Connaughton, second(s) from SAS

SAS trade: Johnson, 4? seconds
SAS receive: Lopez, (23M yr 1 guaranteed only S&T)

Why for Milwaukee: add a replacement for Dame for this year to partner w/ Giannis and some assets for taking on the extra $$
Why for Phoenix: Roster balance. I think Grant's contract is slightly *better* than Beals. 2028 1st > Williams so its about right?
Why for Portland: get out of Grant's last year. Grant is owed 110M total or so, Kuzma and Johnson owed ~80M. saves lots of money overall
Why for SAS: add a veteran back up C while maintaining MLE to fill other holes
Why for Beal: play next to Giannis
Why for Brolo: $$

Add more 2nd(s) if needed
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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#2 » by One_and_Done » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 am

Lopez is a free agent. If he wants to back Wemby up, why don't the Spurs just sign him?
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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#3 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:26 am

One_and_Done wrote:Lopez is a free agent. If he wants to back Wemby up, why don't the Spurs just sign him?


they get out of Johnson's deal + only commit to 1 year to Brolo here. If they sign him w/ MLE may have to commit multiple years like Adams got from Rockets
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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#4 » by One_and_Done » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:32 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Lopez is a free agent. If he wants to back Wemby up, why don't the Spurs just sign him?


they get out of Johnson's deal + only commit to 1 year to Brolo here. If they sign him w/ MLE may have to commit multiple years like Adams got from Rockets

I think the Spurs are fine keeping Keldon. They like him. He brings a positive culture to the team, and is a decent bench guy.
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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#5 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:35 am

One_and_Done wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Lopez is a free agent. If he wants to back Wemby up, why don't the Spurs just sign him?


they get out of Johnson's deal + only commit to 1 year to Brolo here. If they sign him w/ MLE may have to commit multiple years like Adams got from Rockets

I think the Spurs are fine keeping Keldon. They like him. He brings a positive culture to the team, and is a decent bench guy.


I think they will draft a 3/D wing (Carter Bryant or Coward) with 14 and this frees up minutes for them.. Johnson is bad 3 pt shooter and they need more spacing around Wemby. Brolo replaces the culture aspect
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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#6 » by One_and_Done » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:37 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
they get out of Johnson's deal + only commit to 1 year to Brolo here. If they sign him w/ MLE may have to commit multiple years like Adams got from Rockets

I think the Spurs are fine keeping Keldon. They like him. He brings a positive culture to the team, and is a decent bench guy.


I think they will draft a 3/D wing (Carter Bryant or Coward) with 14 and this frees up minutes for them.. Johnson is bad 3 pt shooter and they need more spacing around Wemby. Brolo replaces the culture aspect

The time to propose such a trade is after that happens then.
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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#7 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:38 am

One_and_Done wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:I think the Spurs are fine keeping Keldon. They like him. He brings a positive culture to the team, and is a decent bench guy.


I think they will draft a 3/D wing (Carter Bryant or Coward) with 14 and this frees up minutes for them.. Johnson is bad 3 pt shooter and they need more spacing around Wemby. Brolo replaces the culture aspect

The time to propose such a trade is after that happens then.


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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#8 » by Mr Puddles » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:38 am

From the Suns perspective: While I'd rather pay Beal for two years than Grant for 3 years, adding Williams is worth the gamble. If healthy (yes bit if) he solves a lot of the Suns' current problem.

There's a potential high payoff for the Suns, even at a low probability of Williams staying healthy, at a relatively low cost.

The big unknown (as always) is, will Beal sign off on the trade.
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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#9 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:58 am

Godaddycurse wrote:Why for Phoenix: Roster balance. I think Grant's contract is slightly worse than Beals. 2028 1st > Williams so its about right?



I've read this a bunch and can't figure out what I'm missing. But it looks like Phoenix is losing on value by your own reasoning? Beal worth more than Grant and the first worth more than Williams.

Balance enough to offset the lost value? I don't think so. It would be one thing if there was any chance Willliams could be something, but the absolute best case is pretty mediocre. He has one season where he played low end starter's minutes for 60 games. That was 4 years ago. In the 3 years since he's only played about 75% of the total minutes he played that one season.

Seems bad for Phoenix even if they can talk Beal into it.
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Re: Milwaukee - Phoenix - Portland - SAS 

Post#10 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:59 am

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Godaddycurse wrote:Why for Phoenix: Roster balance. I think Grant's contract is slightly worse than Beals. 2028 1st > Williams so its about right?



I've read this a bunch and can't figure out what I'm missing. But it looks like Phoenix is losing on value by your own reasoning? Beal worth more than Grant and the first worth more than Williams.

Balance enough to offset the lost value? I don't think so. It would be one thing if there was any chance Willliams could be something, but the absolute best case is pretty mediocre. He has one season where he played low end starter's minutes for 60 games. That was 4 years ago. In the 3 years since he's only played about 75% of the total minutes he played that one season.

Seems bad for Phoenix even if they can talk Beal into it.


i typo'd/miswrote that.. i mean beal is slightly worse due to NTC... sorry i'll edit. I think the tax savings from 110M over 2 yr into over 3 yrs has lots of value in itself

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