Hauser + 28 + 32

[vct33]

Speaking of White shooters, I think Celtics should be more focused on moving Derrick White. IMO I cannot see another team trading anything of real value for Hauser at or before the draft and FA. IF KD is moved first, then maybe we can see if a fit exists for a team that's at that all-in mark.
Since other teams seem to be offering big things for White, I think Boston should make THAT move and elevate Hauser into the starting 5.

I think a team would really have to step up to pry White a way. He is a top 30-40 guy on a team friendly contract. Boston has no interest or reason to trade him unless you blow their socks off with a great offer.

He'd certainly not a top 30 guy. Top 60 maybe.

He is at that age where the decline usually begins. Contract is significant (good, positive value) so really a perfect time to deal him if you are taking this "gap year" while Tatum recovers.

The Ringer has him at 38 and Hoopshype has him at 40. There are other outlets that don't have him in their top 50. I have him in the mid 40s somewhere.

[brackdan70]

I think a team would really have to step up to pry White a way. He is a top 30-40 guy on a team friendly contract. Boston has no interest or reason to trade him unless you blow their socks off with a great offer.

He'd certainly not a top 30 guy. Top 60 maybe.

He is at that age where the decline usually begins. Contract is significant (good, positive value) so really a perfect time to deal him if you are taking this "gap year" while Tatum recovers.

The Ringer has him at 38 and Hoopshype has him at 40. There are other outlets that don't have him in their top 50. I have him in the mid 40s somewhere.

He is rated top 20 in various impact stats for last season.
11th in LEBRON WAR, 13th in EPM wins, 17th VPM, 22 DARKO, 16th MAMBA, 32 in 2yr RAPM.
Based on impact he is 100% a top 30 guy.

[nykballa2k4]

He'd certainly not a top 30 guy. Top 60 maybe.

He is at that age where the decline usually begins. Contract is significant (good, positive value) so really a perfect time to deal him if you are taking this "gap year" while Tatum recovers.

The Ringer has him at 38 and Hoopshype has him at 40. There are other outlets that don't have him in their top 50. I have him in the mid 40s somewhere.

He is rated top 20 in various impact stats for last season.
11th in LEBRON WAR, 13th in EPM wins, 17th VPM, 22 DARKO, 16th MAMBA, 32 in 2yr RAPM.
Based on impact he is 100% a top 30 guy.

Absolutely not. He is terrific at his role -- not going to deny that. Those stats don't really do a great job of applying reality the situation. No shame in being the best #3 option in the league or a below average #2 option(45+). Still speaks volumes.

To what VCT33 said -- that seems about right in terms of variance because you have tiers really. The context in terms of this conversation is immediate value -- one game, one series etc today but then moves into trade value/value next season (which should take a slight tick down due to age).

Just as an example - on the Knicks, I would not trade rather have White compared to Bridges, OG, KAT, and Brunson. I assume that Brackdan will see things differently.

But yeah, I think rather trade White now, when you can advertise all those numbers rather than next year when he is more of a focus.

[Blame Rasho]

If teams were smart they should refuse the trade with any teams that are in the 2nd apron unless it is a had over fist great deal.

[longfellow44]

#42 and a tpe from the kings to absorb his salary

Hauser is a positive asset.
If you are saying Hauser for 42 straight up then that’s probably close to fair deal.

I would want those picks in order to absorb his salary. He seems a decent player but 12 million being absorbed to let Boston off the hook will cost them something.

[Cricket23]

The Atlanta deal seems like the most reasonable deal to me, but it may not be a bad idea to hold on to him until the trade deadline. He should play more minutes with Tatum out and perhaps improve his trade value.

[brackdan70]

#42 and a tpe from the kings to absorb his salary

Hauser is a positive asset.
If you are saying Hauser for 42 straight up then that’s probably close to fair deal.

I would want those picks in order to absorb his salary. He seems a decent player but 12 million being absorbed to let Boston off the hook will cost them something.

Boston won’t be doing that. He is on a team friendly contract. It’s not “absorbing “ Salary. I don’t see Boston just dumping him and especially not paying to it.

[brackdan70]

The Ringer has him at 38 and Hoopshype has him at 40. There are other outlets that don't have him in their top 50. I have him in the mid 40s somewhere.

He is rated top 20 in various impact stats for last season.
11th in LEBRON WAR, 13th in EPM wins, 17th VPM, 22 DARKO, 16th MAMBA, 32 in 2yr RAPM.
Based on impact he is 100% a top 30 guy.

Absolutely not. He is terrific at his role -- not going to deny that. Those stats don't really do a great job of applying reality the situation. No shame in being the best #3 option in the league or a below average #2 option(45+). Still speaks volumes.

To what VCT33 said -- that seems about right in terms of variance because you have tiers really. The context in terms of this conversation is immediate value -- one game, one series etc today but then moves into trade value/value next season (which should take a slight tick down due to age).

Just as an example - on the Knicks, I would not trade rather have White compared to Bridges, OG, KAT, and Brunson. I assume that Brackdan will see things differently.

But yeah, I think rather trade White now, when you can advertise all those numbers rather than next year when he is more of a focus.

I don’t really see the Celtics trading him at all, but you never know. If they do I think it would have to be a really strong package that makes them a better team for 26/27 when Tatum is back.

[Blame Rasho]

Hauser is a positive asset.
If you are saying Hauser for 42 straight up then that’s probably close to fair deal.

I would want those picks in order to absorb his salary. He seems a decent player but 12 million being absorbed to let Boston off the hook will cost them something.

Boston won’t be doing that. He is on a team friendly contract. It’s not “absorbing “ Salary. I don’t see Boston just dumping him and especially not paying to it.

His team friendly deal is going to cost the Celtics an unholy amount of money to keep him. The Celtics have to trade him and others because of the penalties associated with his team friendly deal.

[brackdan70]

I would want those picks in order to absorb his salary. He seems a decent player but 12 million being absorbed to let Boston off the hook will cost them something.

Boston won’t be doing that. He is on a team friendly contract. It’s not “absorbing “ Salary. I don’t see Boston just dumping him and especially not paying to it.

His team friendly deal is going to cost the Celtics an unholy amount of money to keep him. The Celtics have to trade him and others because of the penalties associated with his team friendly deal.

This is a false narrative.
They need to trade one of Jrue, Porzingis, Hauser.
Jrue makes the most sense.

[Blame Rasho]

Boston won’t be doing that. He is on a team friendly contract. It’s not “absorbing “ Salary. I don’t see Boston just dumping him and especially not paying to it.

His team friendly deal is going to cost the Celtics an unholy amount of money to keep him. The Celtics have to trade him and others because of the penalties associated with his team friendly deal.

This is a false narrative.
They need to trade one of Jrue, Porzingis, Hauser.
Jrue makes the most sense.

Says it is false… proceeds to name the person named in this thread as a person to trade. Makes sense.

[brackdan70]

His team friendly deal is going to cost the Celtics an unholy amount of money to keep him. The Celtics have to trade him and others because of the penalties associated with his team friendly deal.

This is a false narrative.
They need to trade one of Jrue, Porzingis, Hauser.
Jrue makes the most sense.

Says it is false… proceeds to name the person named in this thread as a person to trade. Makes sense.

The false narrative is they need to trade him and others. If look closely there is a difference between what you said and what I said. A large difference.