What happens to Beal?

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Re: What happens to Beal? 

Post#181 » by hugepatsfan » Mon Jul 7, 2025 8:25 pm

Village Idiot wrote:How about this solution? It's a two-parter since Phoenix can´t aggregate:

Phoenix trades:

Bradley Beal - trade 1
Jalen Green - trade 2
cash - maximum to Utah

Phoenix receives:

Jerami Grant- trade 1
John Collins - trade 2
Kris Murray - 1
Duop Reath -1

Phoenix saves $25.1 million in salary costs this season which according to the numbers I am seeing in Spotrac should get them out of the tax saving them almost $120 million including repeater penalties. They also rebalance their roster by trading two shooting guards for two forwards.

Portland trades:

Jerami Grant
John Collins
Kris Murray

Portland receives:

Lauri Markannen

Portland gets a better scoring SF which could be useful on such a defensive oriented line-up. They take on quite a bit of long-term salary though given Markannen´s deal vs. Grant.

Utah trades:

Lauri Markannen - deal 1
John Collins - deal 2

Utah receives:

Bradely Beal
Jalen Green
maximum cash from Phoenix

Beal has a higher salary but at half the years of Markannen. They clear up their PF to develop their prospects and get a guy in Green who will get the green light to see what he can do as the go-to guy. They end up being the team buying out Beal but given their cap sheet after this deal this should not be an issue, especially since he should get an MLE elsewhere.


PHX easily cuts out POR here. Lauri is a better, younger player than Grant. Your deal ends the Suns up as a tax paying team but below 2nd apron. So does keeping Lauri instead. There's no basketball or financial reason for them to make the terrible swap here just to benefit POR.

Moot point anyway now that Collins is traded.
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Re: What happens to Beal? 

Post#182 » by jredsaz » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:59 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Probably question the benefits for the suns if it’s strictly ducking the tax for a single season. Stretching Beal effectively removes suns at any chance of contending in booker prime.

Hard enough to build a contender under normal rules. Doing it with dead cap is unheard of.


Stretching Beal isn’t only about ducking the tax. It’s about ducking the aprons and the restrictions they impose on teams.

All stars much less all nba players don’t get to free agency anymore. Raw cap space and operating under the actual salary cap is less beneficial than it used to be. Just look at the Nets. Having assets and tradable salary (not even necessarily expiring contracts) is the better avenue.

Suns did a great job of adding young talent that can become quality assets and they have Green, Brooks, Allen and Royce as potential tradeable salary. That said, right now they are very short on assets to carry out a big trade.

In the end, the $19M per over five years still sucks but Ishbia is clearly fine busting through aprons if he thinks he can build a contender. It will end up as +/- 10% of the cap soon. It’s not great but it’s not franchise crushing and doesn’t necessarily, in its self, kill Bookers prime.


What’s the avenue to improve the team. Don’t have assets for trades. Won’t have salary to make moves around the edges.

Booker and role players, no picks , large chunk of dead cap seems franchise killing to me.


I mean you could read my post lol. Like I said they got thin margins. Have to develop their youth into better assets. They do have plenty of tradeable salary - so not sure where you’re at on that.
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Re: What happens to Beal? 

Post#183 » by Knicks365247 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:25 am

Saul Goodman wrote:Milwaukee to me is his best chance for getting his numbers and being a hugely relied upon piece but I see the Clippers already being a foregone conclusion

I'm sure he would love to live in L.A. and secondarily play for the Clippers.

He'd enjoy playing with Giannis more, I would think, but there would be more pressure, and who wants to live in Milwaukee?

Does anyone visit Milwaukee when they go on vacation!?
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Re: What happens to Beal? 

Post#184 » by DirtyDez » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:20 pm

Knicks365247 wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:Milwaukee to me is his best chance for getting his numbers and being a hugely relied upon piece but I see the Clippers already being a foregone conclusion

I'm sure he would love to live in L.A. and secondarily play for the Clippers.

He'd enjoy playing with Giannis more, I would think, but there would be more pressure, and who wants to live in Milwaukee?

Does anyone visit Milwaukee when they go on vacation!?


Didn’t LAC use their exception on Lopez?
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.

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