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[theBigLip]

Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us- you have any thoughts of- of your own on this matter? Or do- is that your thing, you come into a bar, you read some obscure passage and then you pretend- you pawn it off as your own- your own idea just to impress some girls? Embarrass my friend?

Darko, LEBRON, EPM are all adjusted for various things like teammates, competition, etc.
These advanced metrics attempt provide a better look at a player’s actual value than box score derived stats.
Hauser is clearly a positive impact guy, and Robinson is clearly a negative impact guy.

From my friend ChatGPT

Shooting
• 3PT Shooting
• Hauser: Career 3P% ~42.5%, mostly catch-and-shoot, very comfortable spacing the floor from deep (even beyond 27 feet). Less volume than Robinson but hyper-efficient.
• Robinson: Career 3P% ~40.3%, but on MUCH higher volume and tougher attempts. Known for movement shooting (off screens, handoffs, quick releases).
• Shot Profile
• Hauser: Primarily spot-up. He isn’t running off pin-downs or handoffs as much as Robinson.
• Robinson: At his peak (2019–2021), he was one of the league’s best movement shooters (think Klay-lite), constantly running off screens and stressing defenses.

Offensive Game Beyond Shooting
• Hauser
• Limited self-creation. Won’t attack closeouts as much; prefers to swing the ball or shoot.
• More of a floor-spacing cog in Boston’s offense.
• Robinson
• Developed some off-the-dribble counters (pump fakes into drives or floaters) especially after teams started overplaying his shot.
• Better passer out of movement.

Defense
• Hauser
• Surprisingly solid defender for a shooter. He’s stronger, can hold up better on switches, and uses his size to contest shots. Boston trusts him in their defensive schemes.
• Robinson
• Below-average defender. Opposing teams often hunt him in pick-and-rolls. He’s improved with effort and positioning, but still a liability in certain matchups.

I have given my opinion and I think Robinson is a better player. And I did give credit to my source right up front and certainly didn’t “pawn off anything as my own”. And I also don’t think your Darko post is in any way more righteous than mine (totally agree w you TPA!) But just keep Pritchard and Hauser as you look up at the Pistons in the standings next year.

[Snakebites]

Yeah, I'm very very out of step with the rest of the Piston fan community when it comes to Ivey.

I already knew that earlier in this thread but the last page or so of posts really highlight that even more.

I get the fomo when it comes to a recent top 5 pick but other teams will value him based on what we’ve already seen. Hope isn’t value.

And I simply don’t see an objective basis for the reaction here.

Again, hope this ages like milk. I’ll be happy to eat crow here if Ivey takes a leap and proves worth a large extension. But of our young core I think he competes with Duren as the young guys we should be most interested in moving.

[theBigLip]

I'll just say this; Respectfully, this trade will look absurd by December.

Ivey is by far and away the best player listed, and he's combined with Duncan, for spare parts. Also for Grant Williams. Good grief.

You said it Zeeb. The rest of the league forgot about Ivey after he broke his leg. He’ll be back 100% and make this trade look silly.

Also, Pistons had a chance already to pick up Hauser for nothing. They chose Robinson instead. There’s a reason for that - Robinson is a better player.

Lastly, Pistons already have a true PG

What are you talking about “Hauser for nothing?” When could they have done that?

It’s not “nothing” but Hauser is certainly on the block.

From the Ringer today:

Boston is still in the second apron and about $20 million over the luxury tax, but, regardless of what Brad Stevens has said, it would be a true stunner if it didn’t shed more money during the season to dodge repeater tax penalties. The likely casualties are Anfernee Simons and Georges Niang, but no one should be shocked if/when Sam Hauser gets traded.

[brackdan70]

You said it Zeeb. The rest of the league forgot about Ivey after he broke his leg. He’ll be back 100% and make this trade look silly.

Also, Pistons had a chance already to pick up Hauser for nothing. They chose Robinson instead. There’s a reason for that - Robinson is a better player.

Lastly, Pistons already have a true PG

What are you talking about “Hauser for nothing?” When could they have done that?

It’s not “nothing” but Hauser is certainly on the block.

From the Ringer today:

Boston is still in the second apron and about $20 million over the luxury tax, but, regardless of what Brad Stevens has said, it would be a true stunner if it didn’t shed more money during the season to dodge repeater tax penalties. The likely casualties are Anfernee Simons and Georges Niang, but no one should be shocked if/when Sam Hauser gets traded.

I think it’s a leap from media saying “no one should be surprised if Sam Hauser is traded” to “Hauser is certainly on the block”
I don’t recall any rumors about Hauser to Detroit? Did I miss that?
I would speculate that Stevens would not trade Hauser for nothing .the heavy lifting of Salary reduction has been do. They are 331,000 dollars over the Apron and have 2 partial/non guaranteed contracts on the roster. They can simply waive one and be under the Apron. They are at 11 players and 20 million under the tax for 26/27.
All the salary dumps are done. They may certainly make some trades that reduce salary by a bit but there won’t be a Hauser for nothing trade.