Raptors Roster Fit and Cap Reset - Trade Concepts for Barrett, Ingram, Barnes

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Re: Raptors Roster Fit and Cap Reset - Trade Concepts for Barrett, Ingram, Barnes 

Post#81 » by jbk1234 » Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:00 am

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Like I mentioned in another thread, the trade value of the Raptor players is suppressed because the team was tanking and was sub .500. Very little minutes for the projected starting 5 and that was before Ingram came into the program.

I’m fairly certain proposals like Deni for Barnes will be laughable in time come irregardless of contract disparity.

I’d be more inclined to take some of these proposals seriously if Toronto actually gets to play their starters for most of the year and they stink the way people imply they do. I don’t think Toronto fields any trade offers till the deadline with a concerted effort to actually win to help flip the perception of some of their guys


The Barnes disrespect here is next level, but honestly almost no one (fans, media) outside of Toronto really watch the Raptors like that. They maybe watch them when they play their team, but that's it. No context or understanding of circumstances.

I expect Scottie to make a huge leap in year 5. Maybe I'm the delusional one, time will tell, but I wouldn't even be mildly surprised if he's all NBA next year. Not first team all NBA, but I expect him to at least be in serious consideration for 3rd team, if not outright make it. We'll see.


His efficiency, even after he dialed back the number of attempts, is troubling.

I can squint and see the Raptors moving Barrett to the bench and playing Barnes ar the 4 alongside Jak, Ingram, Agbaji, and IQ. Maybe the spacing improves and that will help, but a huge leap would really surprise me. You're talking about a very, very small group of players who make such a leap.
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Re: Raptors Roster Fit and Cap Reset - Trade Concepts for Barrett, Ingram, Barnes 

Post#82 » by wegotthabeet » Tue Aug 12, 2025 1:39 am

zimpy27 wrote:
wegotthabeet wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Like I mentioned in another thread, the trade value of the Raptor players is suppressed because the team was tanking and was sub .500. Very little minutes for the projected starting 5 and that was before Ingram came into the program.

I’m fairly certain proposals like Deni for Barnes will be laughable in time come irregardless of contract disparity.

I’d be more inclined to take some of these proposals seriously if Toronto actually gets to play their starters for most of the year and they stink the way people imply they do. I don’t think Toronto fields any trade offers till the deadline with a concerted effort to actually win to help flip the perception of some of their guys


The Barnes disrespect here is next level, but honestly almost no one (fans, media) outside of Toronto really watch the Raptors like that. They maybe watch them when they play their team, but that's it. No context or understanding of circumstances.

I expect Scottie to make a huge leap in year 5. Maybe I'm the delusional one, time will tell, but I wouldn't even be mildly surprised if he's all NBA next year. Not first team all NBA, but I expect him to at least be in serious consideration for 3rd team, if not outright make it. We'll see.


I think we all watch Raptors as much as any team that isn't our own. We follow the trades and player performance.

I think you just believe more in what the players aren't yet showing than what we do.


Yeah that sounds about right. I get the perception of Barnes isn’t great after his underwhelming performance last year, but I think he’s poised for a breakout year. Time will tell.

It’s more that people become victims of the moment than anything else. Cade went from a bust to future superstar with one good year. Narratives change quickly in the NBA.

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