(Shams) Giddey re-signs with Chicago (4/100)

[BlazersBroncos]

Giddey passing in transition and off cuts to Matas and Essengue is going to be some fun ball to watch.

[Devilanche]

Great deal for both side . Get the generational wealth and locked in a decent starter.


Would need see if there’s option either way so it might be a tad better for either bulls or giddey.

[babyjax13]

I am glad Chicago got this done, I do think Giddey is worth a bit more - but get the money, don't risk a career ending injury on the QO. I think he will have quite a bit of trade value on this deal, too, if the Bulls ever decided to pivot to a rebuild.

[jbk1234]

Good deal for both sides. I think an ETO in year 4 would've made sense for both sides.

[Godaddycurse]

I also agree that the deal should be front-loaded as the Bulls have plenty of financial flexibility now. I can't think of a good reason not to do this (all I can come up with is a lazy FO that just doesn't' think of it or a cheap owner).

If he really outperforms the contract then front loading could potentially prevent them from extending him again/he will reach FA

[daoneandonly]

Seeing how most think this is a good deal, I guess I'll concede I'm off about Giddey? I've been viewing him as a modern day Michael Carter-Williams, and nothing more.

[tcheco]

A+ deal for Chicago honestly, no risk at all, Giddey although flawed, has good tools to make this contract look like a steal in a year or two.
Giddey getting security over betting on himself makes sense, injuries can always happen, and I guess he felt valued at Chicago, good contract considering he was traded away for Caruso(no shame in that)

[Golabki]

Seeing how most think this is a good deal, I guess I'll concede I'm off about Giddey? I've been viewing him as a modern day Michael Carter-Williams, and nothing more.

He's clearly better than MCW ever was. Honestly, when it comes to the young "star" forwards with questionable 3pt shots, I'm not really sure why Franz and Barnes are considered so much better.

[oldncreaky]

Seeing how most think this is a good deal, I guess I'll concede I'm off about Giddey? I've been viewing him as a modern day Michael Carter-Williams, and nothing more.

He's clearly better than MCW ever was. Honestly, when it comes to the young "star" forwards with questionable 3pt shots, I'm not really sure why Franz and Barnes are considered so much better.

Agree that Giddy is much better than MCW. I think Giddy is a legit starter, while MCW had difficulty hanging on to a bench role near the end of his career.

As for Franz and Barnes, IMO both of them are far better defenders than Giddy, and both also have a better mix of skills for a second banana.

[BlazersBroncos]

Seeing how most think this is a good deal, I guess I'll concede I'm off about Giddey? I've been viewing him as a modern day Michael Carter-Williams, and nothing more.

He's clearly better than MCW ever was. Honestly, when it comes to the young "star" forwards with questionable 3pt shots, I'm not really sure why Franz and Barnes are considered so much better.

Agree that Giddy is much better than MCW. I think Giddy is a legit starter, while MCW had difficulty hanging on to a bench role near the end of his career.

As for Franz and Barnes, IMO both of them are far better defenders than Giddy, and both also have a better mix of skills for a second banana.

Giddey at 25M AV doesnt even have to be a second banana. Thats going to be like 15% of the cap for the 26/27 season. He could be a 6th man and the money wouldnt be crazy.

This is a great deal for CHI.

I am a Josh stan so might be biased but some of the comparisons especially MCW are wildly off. Giddey is a far, far, far better shooter. MCW was 40% from the field for his career and 25% from 3. He never developed his shot since coming into the league. Josh is efficient in the 2PT game - never shooting worse than 49% from 2 (MCW as at 43% from 2 for his career). If you buy Josh as a 36%+ 3PT guy moving forward your looking at a steal for 25M AV (No, he wont ever be a shoot off the dribble 3PT guy but if he can keep defenses honest from the 3PT line it drastically changes his outlook).

Josh has 3 of 4 seasons w/ + OBPM and 3 of 4 seasons w/ + DBPM. He is on track to have a WS48 well over the 'average' starter level of .100. His FTr and 3PTr made big jumps last season - showing he is developing a more efficient game (IE 3's and freebies). The kid is going to be very, very good.

[Golabki]

Seeing how most think this is a good deal, I guess I'll concede I'm off about Giddey? I've been viewing him as a modern day Michael Carter-Williams, and nothing more.

He's clearly better than MCW ever was. Honestly, when it comes to the young "star" forwards with questionable 3pt shots, I'm not really sure why Franz and Barnes are considered so much better.

Agree that Giddy is much better than MCW. I think Giddy is a legit starter, while MCW had difficulty hanging on to a bench role near the end of his career.

As for Franz and Barnes, IMO both of them are far better defenders than Giddy, and both also have a better mix of skills for a second banana.

Franz is clearly the best defensive player of the group. I think Giddey is underrated as a defender (not that he's good, but he isn't terrible) and Barnes is overrated as a defend (he had a rep as a good defender in the draft, but I don't think it's really translated into positive NBA impact to date).

But Giddey is CLEARLY the best ball handler and passer of this group. He's a little over a year younger than the other two. And he was the main guy running an averagish Bulls offense last year, which is much more proof of concept that he can actually be a go-to-guy than Franz or Barnes have.

[hugepatsfan]

Fine player but he falls into that gray area of someone who's strengths as a player are being on ball but he's not good enough to ever be a primary on ball player for a team with any serious aspirations. He's an 8 seed in the east type of player.

[tcheco]

Fine player but he falls into that gray area of someone who's strengths as a player are being on ball but he's not good enough to ever be a primary on ball player for a team with any serious aspirations. He's an 8 seed in the east type of player.

I think that's a bit harsh while there is a chance that is all he manages to achieve in his career(like better players than him also only managed to achieve that)
I do think he can be that Manu Ginobili type of player off the bench that brings the ball and creates good looks for other players, sure not at the same level as Manu, but the role could be similar. Sure he is not as easy to fit in all teams, but at 25M, he can be worth that as a sixth man easily. He probably wont develop into a star(would take slightly better defense and 38%+ 3pt shooting at 5 attempts a game? but he doesnt have to.

I'd love to see him in a well built team(thunder wasnt it considering Williams and Shai are better on ball than off), and I dont think the Bulls will be that this year. him coming off the bench for the warriors could look good, but oh well, Bulls it is