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Post#2241 » by SkyHook » Yesterday 5:33 am

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SkyHook wrote:Just down to Kuminga and Grimes in terms of RFAs of note. I haven't seen anything on either lately. Are these going to come down to the wire?

Malik Beasley was 6MotY runner up and he's still not got a contract as far as I can tell.

Not an RFA, but sure... him too.
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Post#2242 » by Scoot McGroot » Yesterday 11:36 am

SkyHook wrote:Just down to Kuminga and Grimes in terms of RFAs of note. I haven't seen anything on either lately. Are these going to come down to the wire?


We’re hearing reports of Philly looking to move Oubre and/or Drummond to clear some tax space. I would assume those are tied into working on a deal with Grimes. Haven’t heard much on Kuminga.

But, the qualifying offers are valid until the end of his month. Sure, they can be extended after that, but deadlines spur action!
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Post#2243 » by jayu70 » Yesterday 8:11 pm

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Post#2244 » by SlimShady83 » Yesterday 8:12 pm

Anyone know what's the news with Trae Young and the Hawks?

Are the Hawks actually going to sign Young or Y'all think they'll trade him?

Kings would be ideal team for Young IMO.
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Post#2245 » by Godaddycurse » Yesterday 8:24 pm

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Even if LAC gets off the hook, I think kawhi should receive a hefty punishment
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Post#2248 » by Jojothewhale » Today 12:57 pm

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I laughed out loud at ~29 Minutes into this. If they don’t get the universe heaved on top of them, the league has no credibility. None. I try very hard not to be sensationalist in these matters, but we now have a direct monetary link to the Clippers. This is over.

*Edit* Wong’s daughter was an Aspire employee. :lol:
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Post#2249 » by Scoot McGroot » Today 2:31 pm

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I laughed out loud at ~29 Minutes into this. If they don’t get the universe heaved on top of them, the league has no credibility. None. I try very hard not to be sensationalist in these matters, but we now have a direct monetary link to the Clippers. This is over.

*Edit* Wong’s daughter was an Aspire employee. :lol:


It's been a busy morning for me, so I haven't had a chance to listen yet.

Did they address the $250k difference of what was invested in versus what was then paid out to Kawhi? That, to me, is somewhat interesting.
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Post#2250 » by the_process » Today 2:44 pm

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Post#2251 » by Jojothewhale » Today 2:53 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Did they address the $250k difference of what was invested in versus what was then paid out to Kawhi? That, to me, is somewhat interesting.


They did not. I don’t want to say too much and ruin the presentation for you, so I will instead say that they attacked the problem from a different angle. Why would Wong invest at the point of insolvency when he previously had no money in the company at all? On what scope would 1.99 matter to a company who had just blown 9 figures in funding?
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Post#2252 » by jbk1234 » Today 3:50 pm

People need to remember that Murdoch didn't want to fire Ailes, but he hired a real law firm to deal a real investigation, and what came back was just too damning.
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Post#2253 » by Texas Chuck » Today 4:02 pm

I mean that latest nugget sure feels like a nail in the coffin. Silver clearly signaled he didn't want to do anything about this, but not sure how he can get away with that now. His league already suffers from the biggest credibility issue because they haven't pushed back hard against all the usual lottery conspiracies, Laker conspiracies, rigging officiating to favor big markets(despite an OKC/Indiana final lol). That stuff is easy to dismiss as just nonsense conspiracy talk.

This? Can't put it in that column. Unless there is an unexpected explanation, this is damning. Let it go because he's your richest owner in a glamour market and you undermine the foundation that supports your entertainment business.
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Post#2254 » by Karate Diop » Today 4:11 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I mean that latest nugget sure feels like a nail in the coffin. Silver clearly signaled he didn't want to do anything about this, but not sure how he can get away with that now. His league already suffers from the biggest credibility issue because they haven't pushed back hard against all the usual lottery conspiracies, Laker conspiracies, rigging officiating to favor big markets(despite an OKC/Indiana final lol). That stuff is easy to dismiss as just nonsense conspiracy talk.

This? Can't put it in that column. Unless there is an unexpected explanation, this is damning. Let it go because he's your richest owner in a glamour market and you undermine the foundation that supports your entertainment business.


I'm not sure if the NBA has the most credibility issues, baseball had literal cheating and it was practically swept under the rug... The NFL also has the same issues as the NBA, arguably worse, but the league office there works to sweep everything under the rug as opposed to trying to have some sense of open air accountability... When people complain about NBA referees I always chuckle, have you seen your average NFL referee? They're shooting from the hip on any questionable call... Getting their own rules wrong, it's a clown show.
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Post#2255 » by Texas Chuck » Today 4:14 pm

baseball fans though aren't terminally online talking about the integrity of the game. The NFL is bulletproof. Its definitely the biggest problem for the Association.

Regardless Silver needs to come down harshly or have a transparent explanation justifying why not.
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Post#2256 » by jayjaysee » Today 4:19 pm

Yeah, up until that I expected nothing at all to happen to LA/Leonard..

Will be hard to come up with a justification for that if that proves to be true (assume it will)
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Post#2257 » by LarsV8 » Today 4:46 pm

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I laughed out loud at ~29 Minutes into this. If they don’t get the universe heaved on top of them, the league has no credibility. None. I try very hard not to be sensationalist in these matters, but we now have a direct monetary link to the Clippers. This is over.

*Edit* Wong’s daughter was an Aspire employee. :lol:


It's been a busy morning for me, so I haven't had a chance to listen yet.

Did they address the $250k difference of what was invested in versus what was then paid out to Kawhi? That, to me, is somewhat interesting.


That is what you call an administration fee, or markup, fairly standard in the business world for what we call "pass through costs" and its pretty damning.

Balmer invests 50m, Kawhi gets 48m, the middleman gets 2m.
Kawhi needs 1.8m, Balmer ponies up 2m, the middleman gets 200k.

To me, this is fairly cut and dry, no matter what the direct evidence shows. You don't need to see the evidence to understand what was going on here. If they were actually smart, they would of laundered this through 10-20 different deals, and paid Kawhi small amounts. The brazenness of this is the shocking part.
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Post#2258 » by Scoot McGroot » Today 5:16 pm

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I laughed out loud at ~29 Minutes into this. If they don’t get the universe heaved on top of them, the league has no credibility. None. I try very hard not to be sensationalist in these matters, but we now have a direct monetary link to the Clippers. This is over.

*Edit* Wong’s daughter was an Aspire employee. :lol:


It's been a busy morning for me, so I haven't had a chance to listen yet.

Did they address the $250k difference of what was invested in versus what was then paid out to Kawhi? That, to me, is somewhat interesting.


That is what you call an administration fee, or markup, fairly standard in the business world for what we call "pass through costs" and its pretty damning.


Balmer invests 50m, Kawhi gets 48m, the middleman gets 2m.
Kawhi needs 1.8m, Balmer ponies up 2m, the middleman gets 200k.

To me, this is fairly cut and dry, no matter what the direct evidence shows. You don't need to see the evidence to understand what was going on here. If they were actually smart, they would of laundered this through 10-20 different deals, and paid Kawhi small amounts. The brazenness of this is the shocking part.


Oh, absolutely my assumption. Was just wondering if there was anything of a $250k payout to an executive or anything of the sort.
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Post#2259 » by SkyHook » Today 5:48 pm

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It's been a busy morning for me, so I haven't had a chance to listen yet.

Did they address the $250k difference of what was invested in versus what was then paid out to Kawhi? That, to me, is somewhat interesting.


That is what you call an administration fee, or markup, fairly standard in the business world for what we call "pass through costs" and its pretty damning.


Balmer invests 50m, Kawhi gets 48m, the middleman gets 2m.
Kawhi needs 1.8m, Balmer ponies up 2m, the middleman gets 200k.

To me, this is fairly cut and dry, no matter what the direct evidence shows. You don't need to see the evidence to understand what was going on here. If they were actually smart, they would of laundered this through 10-20 different deals, and paid Kawhi small amounts. The brazenness of this is the shocking part.


Oh, absolutely my assumption. Was just wondering if there was anything of a $250k payout to an executive or anything of the sort.

It wouldn't necessarily have to be a payout to an executive, the $250K spiff may have simply been to help cover payroll or keep the lights on for another week/month.
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Post#2260 » by Scoot McGroot » Today 8:21 pm

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That is what you call an administration fee, or markup, fairly standard in the business world for what we call "pass through costs" and its pretty damning.


Balmer invests 50m, Kawhi gets 48m, the middleman gets 2m.
Kawhi needs 1.8m, Balmer ponies up 2m, the middleman gets 200k.

To me, this is fairly cut and dry, no matter what the direct evidence shows. You don't need to see the evidence to understand what was going on here. If they were actually smart, they would of laundered this through 10-20 different deals, and paid Kawhi small amounts. The brazenness of this is the shocking part.


Oh, absolutely my assumption. Was just wondering if there was anything of a $250k payout to an executive or anything of the sort.

It wouldn't necessarily have to be a payout to an executive, the $250K spiff may have simply been to help cover payroll or keep the lights on for another week/month.



That’s most likely. But I was most interested to see if the founders were siphoning off money at that late time.

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