HOU - SAC (Eason for Ellis)
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HOU - SAC (Eason for Ellis)
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HOU Gets: Keon Ellis
HOU Gives: Tari Eason
Why for HOU? With VanVleet going down with injury, the Rockets get some much needed guard depth, and with Ellis’ length, high impact defense, and excellent 3PT shooting he fits very well. The Rockets do surrender Eason, however they have plenty of good frontcourt players to absorb his minutes at SF/PF in Durant, Thompson, Smith, & DFS.
PG - Ellis / Sheppard / Holiday
SG - Thompson / Okogie
SF - Smith Jr. / Tate
PF - Durant / DFS / Green
C - Sengun / Adams / Capela
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SAC Gets: Tari Eason (via TPE)
SAC Gives: Keon Ellis
Why for SAC? Although the Kings organization loves Ellis, they just have way too many guards (Schroder, Monk, Carter LaVine, Ellis, & Clifford). They desperately need to rebalance their roster and bring in some more size & length. Eason does just that while also providing a similar level of defense as Ellis. He also could be a very good complement next to Sabonis at PF long term.
PG - Schroder / Monk
SG - LaVine / Carter / Davis
SF - Murray / Clifford / McDermott
PF - Eason / DeRozan / Saric / Jones
C - Sabonis / Eubanks / Raynaud
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                        HOU Gets: Keon Ellis
HOU Gives: Tari Eason
Why for HOU? With VanVleet going down with injury, the Rockets get some much needed guard depth, and with Ellis’ length, high impact defense, and excellent 3PT shooting he fits very well. The Rockets do surrender Eason, however they have plenty of good frontcourt players to absorb his minutes at SF/PF in Durant, Thompson, Smith, & DFS.
PG - Ellis / Sheppard / Holiday
SG - Thompson / Okogie
SF - Smith Jr. / Tate
PF - Durant / DFS / Green
C - Sengun / Adams / Capela
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SAC Gets: Tari Eason (via TPE)
SAC Gives: Keon Ellis
Why for SAC? Although the Kings organization loves Ellis, they just have way too many guards (Schroder, Monk, Carter LaVine, Ellis, & Clifford). They desperately need to rebalance their roster and bring in some more size & length. Eason does just that while also providing a similar level of defense as Ellis. He also could be a very good complement next to Sabonis at PF long term.
PG - Schroder / Monk
SG - LaVine / Carter / Davis
SF - Murray / Clifford / McDermott
PF - Eason / DeRozan / Saric / Jones
C - Sabonis / Eubanks / Raynaud
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I'm a fan of both players, but I have Eason as the better and more valuable one by a comfortable margin.
            
                                    
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I think Keon is going to be a UFA while Eason will be RFA after this year according to spotrac. Agree w/ skyhook that sacramento owes more value
            
                                    
                                    
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I’d rather Sac gave up a pick package. 
The goal would be to have Eason/Ellis/Murray/Clifford as a younger defensive foundation.
            
                                    
                                    
                        The goal would be to have Eason/Ellis/Murray/Clifford as a younger defensive foundation.
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Not moving Eason.
I like Ellis, but we are good with Reed, Amen and now JD at PG
            
                                    
                                    I like Ellis, but we are good with Reed, Amen and now JD at PG

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Sac messed up by not locking Ellis up this season and his value should reflect that. Sac owes here.
But Sac should overpay in picks for Eason. Find the third team with a useful cheap guard (Jose?) and make some kind of simple(ish) three team deal using Saric..
            
                                    
                                    
                        But Sac should overpay in picks for Eason. Find the third team with a useful cheap guard (Jose?) and make some kind of simple(ish) three team deal using Saric..
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Haven't ever seen any PG like play out of Ellis when I've watched him (which isn't that much).  Looking at his numbers, he average 1.5 assists last year, right in line with career numbers of 1.4 which also doesn't scream playmaker.  I think if Houston gets him, he's playing the wing and they are still counting on developing Thompson or Sheppard to be the actual playmaker.
            
                                    
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penbeast0 wrote:Haven't ever seen any PG like play out of Ellis when I've watched him (which isn't that much). Looking at his numbers, he average 1.5 assists last year, right in line with career numbers of 1.4 which also doesn't scream playmaker. I think if Houston gets him, he's playing the wing and they are still counting on developing Thompson or Sheppard to be the actual playmaker.
It'll mainly be Sengun. I think people get fixated on the PG position having to be the playmaker and floor general of the offense. The Rockets best player in both of those respects has actually always been Sengun. It's clear seeing him finally play freely without differing to Jalen Green and Freddy.
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I accidentally clicked the wrong option in the poll, but Eason is a lot more valuable than Ellis. The Rockets would need more.
            
                                    
                                    
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SNPA wrote:I’d rather Sac gave up a pick package.
The goal would be to have Eason/Ellis/Murray/Clifford as a younger defensive foundation.
Completely agree with this.
Leon is our ONLY guard defender and guy who can get his without having specific plays drawn up - and from three.
If a pick and a swap does it I’m a big fan of Eason and he is a piece that fits very well.
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MoreyWins wrote:penbeast0 wrote:Haven't ever seen any PG like play out of Ellis when I've watched him (which isn't that much). Looking at his numbers, he average 1.5 assists last year, right in line with career numbers of 1.4 which also doesn't scream playmaker. I think if Houston gets him, he's playing the wing and they are still counting on developing Thompson or Sheppard to be the actual playmaker.
It'll mainly be Sengun. I think people get fixated on the PG position having to be the playmaker and floor general of the offense. The Rockets best player in both of those respects has actually always been Sengun. It's clear seeing him finally play freely without differing to Jalen Green and Freddy.
The issue you have is not PLAYMAKING as obviously we utilize Domas the same way as the primary playmaker.
The problem you run into is BALLHANDLING (ie simply getting the ball up the court) and that’s where good defensive teams will absolutely kill you. There are some combo guys or particularly skilled combo forwards who can handle it to a point. But a good defender will make it very difficult to get up court and into your offense. And a great one? It makes it completely disrupted.
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OGSactownballer wrote:MoreyWins wrote:penbeast0 wrote:Haven't ever seen any PG like play out of Ellis when I've watched him (which isn't that much). Looking at his numbers, he average 1.5 assists last year, right in line with career numbers of 1.4 which also doesn't scream playmaker. I think if Houston gets him, he's playing the wing and they are still counting on developing Thompson or Sheppard to be the actual playmaker.
It'll mainly be Sengun. I think people get fixated on the PG position having to be the playmaker and floor general of the offense. The Rockets best player in both of those respects has actually always been Sengun. It's clear seeing him finally play freely without differing to Jalen Green and Freddy.
The issue you have is not PLAYMAKING as obviously we utilize Domas the same way as the primary playmaker.
The problem you run into is BALLHANDLING (ie simply getting the ball up the court) and that’s where good defensive teams will absolutely kill you. There are some combo guys or particularly skilled combo forwards who can handle it to a point. But a good defender will make it very difficult to get up court and into your offense. And a great one? It makes it completely disrupted.
I don't think getting the ball across the hashmark will be as big of a problem as people make it out to be, unless I'm missing something. Sengun, Durant, Amen, Reed, and Holiday are all players comfortable with bringing the ball up the court. It seems likely there will be plenty of minutes with 3 or 4 of those 5 players on the floor together. I don't think there's a team in the league besides OKC's small ball lineup with 4 players capable of pressuring the ball full court at the rate where it could be a real concern.
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Eason has substantially more value.
            
                                    
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