IND - SAC (Walker for Ellis)

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IND GETS: Keon Ellis
IND GIVES: Jarace Walker
WHY FOR IND? With Siakam & Toppin at PF and Nesmith, Mathurin, Sheppard, & Furphy able to log minutes at SF, Walker might not have as much opportunity as preferred. Instead they swap him for more backcourt help (Ellis) who is another Nesmith type player (excellent defender and excellent shooter) and complements Haliburton very well (when he comes back from injury). Lastly, Ellis has already proven to be a very impactful, winning player whereas Walker is more potential at this point. Considering the Pacers were knocking on the door of a championship last year, Ellis’ guaranteed impact might be preferred.

PG - Nembhard / McConnell / Jones / Haliburton (rehab)
SG - Ellis / Mathurin
SF - Nesmith / Sheppard / Furphy
PF - Siakam / Toppin
C - Jackson / Huff / Wiseman / Bradley

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SAC GETS: Jarace Walker (via TPE)
SAC GIVES: Keon Ellis
WHY FOR SAC? Although the Kings organization loves Ellis, they just have way too many guards (Schroder, Monk, Carter LaVine, Ellis, & Clifford). They desperately need to rebalance their roster and bring in some more size & length. Walker does just that. He also could be a very good complement next to Sabonis at PF long term.

PG - Schroder / Monk
SG - LaVine / Carter / Davis
SF - Murray / Clifford / McDermott
PF - Walker / DeRozan / Saric / Jones
C - Sabonis / Eubanks / Raynaud

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[Godaddycurse]

Mathurin/Sheppard/Furphy are all better suited to be SGs. Dont see Indy trading their big forward for another smaller guard to add to their glut. contract status also favours walker

[Scoot McGroot]

Couple major issues for Indy.

1) Probably a half season to a full season too late to try and snag Walker? Walker really started to show the potential and results of the overhaul of his game that Indy worked so hard on. Plus, he just turned 22, while Ellis is turning 26 this season. And he already played impactful minutes in a championship series run.

2) In terms of defense, Indy doesn't need more of if at the guards. They need it at the 3/4/5 spot. Which is where Walker plays. With Nembhard, Nesmith, Sheppard plus other guys with solid potential there, there's bodies to throw. But, when Indy runs defense focused lineups, there's an easy way to slot in Walker at any of the 3/4/5 spots, as we did in the playoff run last year, where Walker produced already.

3) Ellis only really helps this year, while Haliburton is out. Next year? Not many minutes for him if all goes well. Plus, Ellis is a free agent, so that cheap contract jumps up next year when Indy is hoping to compete again, while Walker will still have a rookie contract year.

4) Indy feels really good about their ability to develop and play guards. They have not had, well, any true "big combo forwards" for a long time, and Walker is it. And, with his ability to play bigger (and Obi playing some small ball 5), the loss of Turner means that Walker is a HUGE need.


Keon is a really solid player. He'd be a better fit if Indy dealt a guard, like Mathurin, but not at the cost of Walker. Indy just doesn't have the forward/big depth to give up the "ascending" one.

If Ellis had a couple more years of his cheap deal, it might be more of a consideration, but his upcoming raise hurts his value there. And, he's unrestricted this upcoming offseason when a lot of teams have MLE space and cap space. Why didn't Sacramento opt him out and then re-sign him to a longer deal in restricted free agency this summer?

[tcheco]

Wait, when did Ellis proved he is an impactful winning player? he didnt even play in the last playoff appearance from the kings, and the team failed to make it again since then...

Sure Walker is about potencial, but also cost controlled. Ellis will have to be paid after this season, Jarace has one extra year on his rookie contract and will be an RFA and Ellis an UFA.

Mathurin will be a SG this year while Haliburton recovers, Nembhard is the SG when he is healthy as well, so Ellis would be a backup either way this season and next, I cant see Ellis start over Mathurin when the team needs offense, since they have Nesmith and Nembhard already as defensive forces on 1 and 3.

Not trying to make Ellis look bad, but if Pacers decide to move Walker, they should aim to get a Center or a Small Forward(since Nesmith can slide to SG easily). Pacers are good on PG and SG

[ReggiesKnicks]

Indiana needs a lot of value added to the degree in which Sacramento would never pay.

[Scoot McGroot]

Not trying to make Ellis look bad, but if Pacers decide to move Walker, they should aim to get a Center or a Small Forward(since Nesmith can slide to SG easily).

This is probably the most correct answer.

[longfellow44]

I'm not interested in trading Ellis at all really. I want to see the kings eventually move him into a starting role and ship out Derozan. I think Walker has a ton of potential and I think the trade is reasonable but I'm not ready to let Ellis walk.

[Wizop]

Indiana has a need a PG with Tyrese out and TJ hurt, and a need at center where we have 4 guys yet to prove themselves worthy of starting. Ellis does not fit either need.

[basketballwacko2]

There's no way I'm moving Walker right now with 2 years left on his rookie deal and we should see more of him and get a better sense of what he's able to do. No need for Ellis. Like Wizop said maybe a back pg but they just signed Cameron Payne from what I heard and he and Quentin Jackson can fill in until TJ is back.

So I think this has to be no unless the Kings are gonna over pay. I'm not making a value judgement on Ellis but he's just not needed.

Note: I'm a big fan of Quentin Jackson.

[jbk1234]

Ellis is better than Walker IMO, but sending him to a team that has Nemhard and Neismith doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Wizop]

Note: I'm a big fan of Quentin Jackson.

and I'm a big fan of RayJ. If Payne doesn't produce in exhibition games, it's possible we'd just drop a center, elevate Q, and sign a young center to a two-way.

[basketballwacko2]

Note: I'm a big fan of Quentin Jackson.

and I'm a big fan of RayJ. If Payne doesn't produce in exhibition games, it's possible we'd just drop a center, elevate Q, and sign a young center to a two-way.

I like Ray J as well. Did you see the numbers that Peter put up against OKC? 18 pts, 5 rebs, 5 assts, and 4-8 from 3pt.