Cavs and Bulls

[JJ_PR]

Cavs get: Dalen Terry and 2 2nds ('28 and '29)
Bulls get: Dean Wade

Why?
Cavs get a back-up wing, some 2nds and save a little bit of cash.
Bulls get a solid all-around veteran forward.

[jbk1234]

Cavs get: Dalen Terry and 2 2nds ('28 and '29)
Bulls get: Dean Wade

Why?
Cavs get a back-up wing, some 2nds and save a little bit of cash.
Bulls get a solid all-around veteran forward.

I'd pass here. Your dude Dariq Whitehead got cut by the Nets. Okeke is playing in Europe. I'm guessing Terry might not even make the Bulls roster over Carter.

[ChettheJet]

The Bulls can do it, if CLE thinks so much of Wade and so little of Terry a pair of seconds isn't enough. I think one 2nd should be enough,

The trade actually works for both sides. Wade isn't a great all around player but he can shoot the basketball. The Bulls can always use more shooters. Terry hustles and is fair on defense but isn't much of a scorer and really doesn't do anything exceptionally well or consistently. With the scoring that the Cavs have with Mitchell, Garland, Mobley and others they can afford to play a hustle guy who isn't a big scoring threat.

[jbk1234]

The Bulls can do it, if CLE thinks so much of Wade and so little of Terry a pair of seconds isn't enough. I think one 2nd should be enough,

The trade actually works for both sides. Wade isn't a great all around player but he can shoot the basketball. The Bulls can always use more shooters. Terry hustles and is fair on defense but isn't much of a scorer and really doesn't do anything exceptionally well or consistently. With the scoring that the Cavs have with Mitchell, Garland, Mobley and others they can afford to play a hustle guy who isn't a big scoring threat.

Terry didn't get much run in two preseason games. Wade has given the Cavs solid minutes in the playoffs. I very much doubt the Cavs F.O. is open to anything like this.

[toooskies]

The only reason for the Cavs to move Wade for an unplayable playoff player is for tax savings, and Terry doesn't save the Cavs much. Terry also has a ton of overlap with Tyson/Proctor, so he might not even get PT in the regular season.

You could add a third team that would take Terry for free or for one of those 2nds and the tax savings start to become more appealing. Probably becomes a deadline deal to minimize the tax hit of a minimum free agent signing.

[jbk1234]

The only reason for the Cavs to move Wade for an unplayable playoff player is for tax savings, and Terry doesn't save the Cavs much. Terry also has a ton of overlap with Tyson/Proctor, so he might not even get PT in the regular season.

You could add a third team that would take Terry for free or for one of those 2nds and the tax savings start to become more appealing. Probably becomes a deadline deal to minimize the tax hit of a minimum free agent signing.

Has there been any reporting that the Cavs are looking to do that? I know they shopped Wade for *assets* this summer, but when none materialized, it seems like that stopped.

I'm not saying there's zero chance they'll dump players at deadline, especially if there are injury issues or Tyson/Proctor make someone more expensive expendable, but I haven't read any reporting at all that they're motivated to shed salary at the expense of playoff worthy rotation guys.

[toooskies]

The only reason for the Cavs to move Wade for an unplayable playoff player is for tax savings, and Terry doesn't save the Cavs much. Terry also has a ton of overlap with Tyson/Proctor, so he might not even get PT in the regular season.

You could add a third team that would take Terry for free or for one of those 2nds and the tax savings start to become more appealing. Probably becomes a deadline deal to minimize the tax hit of a minimum free agent signing.

Has there been any reporting that the Cavs are looking to do that? I know they shopped Wade for *assets* this summer, but when none materialized, it seems like that stopped.

I'm not saying there's zero chance they'll dump players at deadline, especially if there are injury issues or Tyson/Proctor make someone more expensive expendable, but I haven't read any reporting at all that they're motivated to shed salary at the expense of playoff worthy rotation guys.

No reporting that I know of. The best time to make a tax-cutting move is before the trade deadline when you have the most information about the player, have minimized the cost for the acquiring team by paying the majority of the player's salary, and have better perspective on the team's title odds and whether trading the player affects them.

The question is whether Wade is a playoff worthy rotation guy. Wade is inconsistent and that inconsistency has been worse in the playoffs, when he's been healthy enough to play. He can defend but he's been a worse shooter than Okoro in the playoffs.