Knicks/Sonics (Fred Jones for Damien Wilkins straight up!)

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Knicks/Sonics (Fred Jones for Damien Wilkins straight up!) 

Post#1 » by ctorres » Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:07 am

The Knicks need a decent small forward in the worst way. Quentin Richardson, Jared Jeffries, and Renaldo Balkman have thus far been atrocious this season.

This season, Wilkins has averaged 28.7 mpg, 11.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, and 2.4 apg shooting a respectable 36.1% from the 3-point line and 77.8% from the free throw line. I know some Sonics fans have complained about him, and if they feel he is stunting the growth of Jeff Green, then maybe the Sonics should consider trading him for Fred Jones' expiring deal.

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Due to New York and Seattle being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. New York and Seattle had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.9 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and +0.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Damien Wilkins
6-6 SG / SF from Georgia
11.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.4 apg in 28.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Fred Jones
6-2 SG from Oregon
6.3 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.1 apg in 24.2 minutes

Seattle Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.9 ppg, -1.4 rpg, and -0.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Fred Jones
6-2 SG from Oregon
6.3 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.1 apg in 24.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Damien Wilkins
6-6 SG / SF from Georgia
11.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.4 apg in 28.8 minutes
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Post#2 » by moocow007 » Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:26 am

The Knicks really don't need anyone that can help them win a handful of more games which increases the risk of them screwing with their lottery positioning.
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Post#3 » by KyleCleric » Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:43 am

Seattle would rather have Wilkins and pay his contract than have nobody and pay nothing.
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Post#4 » by ctorres » Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:49 am

Isn't Wilkins stunting the growth of Jeff Green?

Another deal I've thought of is Fred Jones and Malik Rose for Wally Szczerbiak, which would save some money for the Sonics as well.
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Post#5 » by #1knickfan » Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:50 am

moocow007 wrote:The Knicks really don't need anyone that can help them win a handful of more games which increases the risk of them screwing with their lottery positioning.


I agree. While I think this is a fair trade I think the Knicks should make trades that will either make them much better or much worse.
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Post#6 » by moocow007 » Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:05 am

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I agree. While I think this is a fair trade I think the Knicks should make trades that will either make them much better or much worse.


Yeah pretty much.

To be honest, I don't even see what the big deal about Wilkins is. He's shooting 36% from 3PT range which is ok, but he's only shooting 40% overall. If this was a Knick people would be screaming that he's a chucking scrub so why would it be different if he's a Sonic? His FT shooting? He gets to the line about 2.3 times a game. That's going to help NY, who regularly falls behind by 15 to 20 how? Unless the NBA adds a rule to allow designated free throw shooters, what's his 78% going to do?

And if Fred Jones (who shoots a higher percentage than Wilkins and who actually is a tough defensive player) was allowed to take the same number of shots that Wilkins is he'd probably average the same number of points with the added benefit of also being able to play both backcourt positions. Heck, I don't see Wilkins even being a better player than Fred Jones.

3 years of him is about as exciting as finding a quarter tucked inside your coat pocket. Sure you get an extra quarter but it's not exactly winning the Lottery.

Speaking of which and to get back on tract...the lottery is where NY needs to be focusing on.
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Post#7 » by yaomac11-1 » Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:28 am

interesting deal
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Post#8 » by ctorres » Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:39 am

I guess you pretty much pwn'd me moocow :-(

I'm just trying to find alternative ways to improving the Knicks as opposed to your typical trade proposals around here.
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Post#9 » by KyleCleric » Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:52 am

ctorres wrote:I guess you pretty much pwn'd me moocow :-(

I'm just trying to find alternative ways to improving the Knicks as opposed to your typical trade proposals around here.


If the Knicks want to improve, the first thing they'd need to do is get rid of Zeke.
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Post#10 » by ctorres » Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:57 am

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If the Knicks want to improve, the first thing they'd need to do is get rid of Zeke.


Well that's obvious but may not happen anytime soon.
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Post#11 » by #1knickfan » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:17 am

ctorres wrote:I guess you pretty much pwn'd me moocow :-(

I'm just trying to find alternative ways to improving the Knicks as opposed to your typical trade proposals around here.


Don't feel bad. Its just that this trade doesn't help us enough in and of itself to make it a worthwhile deal. Although Fred Jones' contract isn't large it is expiring and would likely be a necessary filler component of a larger deal that would actually make a difference to the team one way or the other.

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