Toronto - Phoenix - Lakers (Bosh)

The Letter V · Post #1 » by **The Letter V** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:03 am

Los Angeles Lakers

Incoming Players

Chris Bosh
Salary: $13,041,250 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.4 REB: 9.5 AST: 2.1 PER: 23.07

Boris Diaw
Salary: $9,000,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 6.9 REB: 4.1 AST: 3.3 PER: 9.83

Jose Calderon
Salary: $2,471,604 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.3 REB: 3.1 AST: 8.2 PER: 21.99

Rasho Nesterovic
Salary: $7,840,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.7 REB: 4.6 AST: 0.9 PER: 11.98

Eric Piatkowski
Salary: $1,219,590 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 2.0 REB: 1.0 AST: 0.4 PER: 6.44

(They give: Brown, Bynum, Crittenton, Farmar, Odom, Karl)

They get Bosh to team up with Kobe, to form a good 1-2 punch. They also get their new starting PG in Calderon as well as Diaw who reduces the impact of losing Odom. Then there's Nesterovic, who's an experienced C, and complements Bosh nicely.

Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players

Lamar Odom
Salary: $13,248,596 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 14.1 REB: 8.9 AST: 2.3 PER: 13.77

Joey Graham
Salary: $1,596,600 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.6 REB: 2.6 AST: 0.4 PER: 7.98

Jordan Farmar
Salary: $1,009,560 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 9.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 2.7 PER: 16.32

(They give: Banks, Barbosa, Diaw, Marks, Piatkowski)

They add Odom to their lineup, and shed Diaw and Banks' contracts. They do lose Barbosa, but get Farmar to backup Nash instead. Graham is just a filler but could flourish playing PF in PHX's system.

Toronto Raptors

Incoming Players

Marcus Banks
Salary: $3,966,207 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 4.9 REB: 0.6 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.17

Javaris Crittenton
Salary: $1,285,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.6 REB: 1.2 AST: 0.8 PER: 14.27

Coby Karl
Salary: $427,163 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.0 REB: 0.7 AST: 0.7 PER: 10.07

Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $5,600,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 17.1 REB: 2.9 AST: 2.7 PER: 17.67

Andrew Bynum
Salary: $2,172,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 12.4 REB: 10.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.51

Kwame Brown
Salary: $9,075,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.4 REB: 5.3 AST: 1.4 PER: 11.28

Sean Marks
Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 3.2 REB: 1.0 AST: 0.2 PER: 13.00

(They give: Bosh, Calderon, Graham, Nesterovic)

They lose the best player in the deal, but get some nice pieces in return. A Bynum-Bargs frontcourt gives them a more traditional frontcourt with tons of potential. They also get Barbosa, who is the playmaker/scorer they are lacking right now. As well, Brown is a $9 expiring. They have to eat Banks' contract to make the deal work but also get Critt who would make a nice backup for Ford.

Lakers:

Nesterovic - Mihm
Bosh - Turiaf - Radman
Diaw - Walton
Bryant - Ariza
Calderon - Fisher

Phoenix:

Amare - Skinner
Marion - Graham
Odom - Hill
Bell - Tucker
Nash - Farmar

Raptors:

Bynum - Baston
Bargnani - Humphries
Parker - Moon - Kapono
Barbosa - Delfino
Ford - Crittenton - Banks

DanTown8587 · Post #2 » by **DanTown8587** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:14 am

So you think the Lakers keep Bynum and then deal him for Bosh and Diaw?

The Letter V · Post #3 » by **The Letter V** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:17 am

DanTown8587 wrote:So you think the Lakers keep Bynum and then deal him for Bosh and Diaw?

Yeah, they are getting excellent return in this trade.

Kosta · Post #4 » by **Kosta** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:37 am

All 3 teams reject this proposal.

Patterns · Post #5 » by **Patterns** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:15 am

Suns get too much value. Barbosa + 2 bad contracts won't net you Odom, Farmar.

Post #6 » by **KJ7** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:55 am

For your sake I hope not many Toronto fans read this.

The Letter V · Post #7 » by **The Letter V** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:59 am

Really? I think it's pretty fair in terms of value. I know it's higly unprobable, but not that outrageous. Lakers get a contender. Suns shed some contracts and get an impact player. The Raps revamp their frontcourt as well as get a go to player and some expirings.

If anything, I think Toronto should be getting a little more. How about LA's 1st round pick- or ATL's pick from PHX...or would that be too much?

DanTown8587 · Post #8 » by **DanTown8587** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 12:12 pm

If you have watched the Lakers lately, you know they would say no to this. In fact, I would bet if it was legal and all, they say no to Bosh for Bynum.

warren weel im · Post #9 » by **warren weel im** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:26 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:If you have watched the Lakers lately, you know they would say no to this. In fact, I would bet if it was legal and all, they say no to Bosh for Bynum.

Seconded, Thirded and motion passed.

Bosh, in all his upside and skills, earns 13m. Bynum, in all his potential earns 2.1m this year and 2.8m next year. That alone is unbeatable value.

Mascot · Post #10 » by **Mascot** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:35 pm

with ford up for retirement theres no way calderon is going ot be traded....unless we get kobe somehow

zong · Post #11 » by **zong** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:11 pm

KJ7 wrote:For your sake I hope not many Toronto fans read this.

actually, we'd take a hard look at this deal

...then reject it

Play_Smart! · Post #12 » by **Play_Smart!** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:36 pm

really bad for Toronto

Post #13 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:26 pm

So let me get this straight we trade Bosh and Calderon for Bynum and Javaris Crittenton so called "potential" and 2 really long contracts in Banks and Barboasa I don't think so. Toronto wants no part of this deal.

LA takes this and runs with it before Phoenix and Toronto know how bad their getting ripped off. Kobe, Bosh, Diaw and Calderon would be a damn good team. Plus the Lakers have some quility depth no way Pheonix helps them out like this.

Mascot · Post #14 » by **Mascot** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:30 pm

Barboasa is on one of the best contracts in the NBA if not the best excluding rookie contracts for his production id be glad to have his long contract here.

Post #15 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:44 pm

Mascot wrote:Barboasa is on one of the best contracts in the NBA if not the best excluding rookie contracts for his production id be glad to have his long contract here.

Barbosa is a great SG God knows he's quick as anything and can score in bunches but not at the price of Bosh and Calderon I wouldn't. I mean yeah I was a bit harsh on him (Barbosa) but Bosh is a elite big that would take Amare (straight up) coming to Toronto other then that there really isn't anything I would want on Pheonix contract wise. I mean Marion is great but is a role player not a franchise player. Toronto would welcome Marion no questions asked but not for Bosh.

As for LA Kobe is the only thing Toronto would ask for one on one for Bosh and neither team does it.

Post #16 » by **rsavaj** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:02 pm

Phoenix says yes... :-D

flipside21 · Post #17 » by **flipside21** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:09 pm

You'd have have to come up with a way to move Banks to Lakers instead, and send Toronto expiring or moveable contracts . . . Either that or send along Atl's 1st rounder.

Do one of those and I'd be down. But then again I am petrified by the possibility of being a treadmill team.

hermes · Post #18 » by **hermes** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:37 pm

The Letter V wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah, they are getting excellent return in this trade.

the lakers would have no centers

The Letter V · Post #19 » by **The Letter V** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:52 pm

hermes wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

the lakers would have no centers

With Bosh around, you don't really need a bonafide C next to him. All you need is a vet that can rebound, defend, and finish around the rim- Rasho can do all that.

On the trade in general, it seems as though most think PHX is getting too good a deal out of this and Toronto getting the short end.

How about if Toronto also gets:

ATL's 1st round pick from PHX
and
Laker's 1st round pick

...to even things out a bit.

I_Like_Dirt · Post #20 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 7:28 pm

This deal is brutal for the Raptors and no matter how some Lakers fans want to try and slice it they run away with this deal. No centers? They'd have Rasho and even Diaw (who actually does pretty well there). Barbosa's contract is nice but not so much when you factor in Banks comes along for the ride. Calderon needs to be extended but Bynum will be extended for even more pretty soon, too. The Raptors come out with worse players and in a worse contract situation. Ouch.

The last things the Raptors need are more depth, non-elite prospects and undersized shooting guards. They've got plenty of those. They could use another star alongside Bosh, but a team without a single star and a mess of positionless players is just asking for trouble.