CLE/CHI/SAC - Bulls dump Ben, Cavs get Bibby, Kings rebuild

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #1 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:52 am

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Chicago Bulls

Incoming Players
Mikki Moore
Salary: $5,356,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 8.0 REB: 6.0 AST: 0.8 PER: 10.38

Damon Jones
Salary: $4,172,432 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.7 REB: 1.0 AST: 1.5 PER: 9.39

Ira Newble
Salary: $3,441,900 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 3.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 0.2 PER: 11.28

Larry Hughes
Salary: $12,000,084 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 9.4 REB: 3.1 AST: 2.2 PER: 8.17

CLE 2009 1st round pick (lotto protected)

Outgoing Players: Chris Duhon, JamesOn Curry, Thabo Sefolosha, Ben Wallace

Sacramento Kings

Incoming Players
Cedric Simmons
Salary: $1,629,120 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 0.5 REB: 2.8 AST: 0.0 PER: 1.49

Eric Snow
Salary: $6,703,125 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 0.9 REB: 0.9 AST: 1.8 PER: 4.05

Thabo Sefolosha
Salary: $1,805,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.8 REB: 2.0 AST: 1.1 PER: 6.75

Donyell Marshall
Salary: $5,566,965 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.5 REB: 1.0 AST: 1.0 PER: 7.16

Outgoing Players: Mikki Moore, Mike Bibby, Kenny Thomas

Cleveland Cavaliers

Incoming Players
Chris Duhon
Salary: $3,248,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.4 REB: 1.9 AST: 3.8 PER: 9.27

JamesOn Curry
Salary: $427,163 Years Remaining: 2

Mike Bibby
Salary: $13,500,000 Years Remaining: 2

Kenny Thomas
Salary: $7,875,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 1.4 REB: 2.7 AST: 0.6 PER: 2.74

Ben Wallace
Salary: $15,500,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 4.4 REB: 8.9 AST: 2.0 PER: 11.95

Outgoing Players: Cedric Simmons, Eric Snow, Damon Jones, Ira Newble, Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall, 2009 1st round pick (lotto protected)

The Cavs drastically upgrade their team to give Lebron some help. Firstly, they get a PG in Bibby, who can also shoot the ball to help spread the floor. Big Ben has a bad contract, but so does Hughes, who they are dumping in this deal. Wallace gives them D and toughness in the post. Duhon gives the Cavs a solid backup PG.

Bibby/Duhon/Curry
Brown/Gibson/Brown
James/Pavlovic
Wallace/Gooden/Thomas
Ilgauskas/Varejao/Jones

Wallace obviously hasn't fit in with the Bulls, so they dump him in this deal. They do have to take back a bad contract in Hughes, but he could fit in well alongside Gordon in the backcourt. They also get Moore to help replace Wallace in the frontcourt.

Hinrich/Jones/Griffin
Hughes/Gordon/Newble
Deng/Nocioni/Nichols
Thomas/Smith/Khryapa
Noah/Moore/Gray

The Kings get a good package for Bibby with this deal. Firstly, they dump KT's long contract, while both Snow and Marshall's contracts expire in 2009. They also get 2 young players from the 2006 draft in Sefolosha and Simmons, who would add to their young core.

Udrih/Douby/Snow
Martin/Salmons/Jones
Artest/Garcia/Sefolosha
Hawes/Simmons/Marshall
Miller/Williams/Abdur-Rahim

BR0D1E86 · Post #2 » by **BR0D1E86** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:33 am

Bleh, the Bulls actually add 5 million in salary for next year and save only $325,000 in 2 years.

The way Thabo has been playing recently I'd rather just bench Ben Wallace for 2 years until he's valuable at the trade deadline as an expiring, throw Duhon into Lake Michigan and give his minutes to Thabo.

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #3 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:14 am

I suppose the Bulls could keep Sefolosha, and the Cavs send their 1st to the Kings...

BR0D1E86 · Post #4 » by **BR0D1E86** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:22 am

I'm in favor of nearly every trade that removes Ben Wallace, but I'm still leery of adding salary next year.

Cliff Levingston · Post #5 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:22 am

The Bulls would be much better just eating Wallace's contract if they're not going to see some sort of monetary savings as a result of a Ben Wallace deal.

SacKingZZZ · Post #6 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:23 am

That pick better be coming the Kings way otherwise the Kings easily say no.

Bac2Basics · Post #7 » by **Bac2Basics** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:00 am

DanTown8587 · Post #8 » by **DanTown8587** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:42 am

Think the Kings give up to much, sorry but good idea. Also, Wallace for Hughes helps no one. The Bulls don't need another guard who shoots terrible percentage and the Cavs certainly don't need another big.

ThiZZ · Post #9 » by **ThiZZ** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:40 am

Anytime you include Larry Hughes in any trade scenario, it comes to a screeching halt.... No one wants that scrub

Post #10 » by **gswhoops** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:51 pm

What's the incentive for the Kings here? Mr. "1.5 PER" Simmons? Thabo? Shaving a year off of Thomas' deal?

Definitely not enough for Bibby, even in his diminished state.

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #11 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:23 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:Think the Kings give up to much, sorry but good idea. Also, Wallace for Hughes helps no one. The Bulls don't need another guard who shoots terrible percentage and the Cavs certainly don't need another big.

Actually, the Cavs do need another big...

ThiZZ wrote:Anytime you include Larry Hughes in any trade scenario, it comes to a screeching halt.... No one wants that scrub

The same can be said about Ben Wallace, then...

hermes · Post #12 » by **hermes** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:44 pm

ThiZZ wrote:Anytime you include Larry Hughes in any trade scenario, it comes to a screeching halt.... No one wants that scrub

its getting to be the same with ben wallace