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[tclg]

I think he did the right thing. Wallace isnt interested in winning any more and noah called him out on that. I would not trade noah right now. He is great when he sees the floor too bad there are 60 million reasons why he doesnt

[GopherIt!]

Shrink are you trying to help us make a deal or not? (Just giving you a hard time man.)



Coldfish wrote:
"The *minnesota* posters here are making it clear that they have not seen enough of *the Bulls* to make a comment worth reading."

Come on Fish. All that was suggested is that Bulls fans at least check out Craig Smith before saying no every trade idea posted here.


"Beyond that, Noah's personality is not only a good fit for the Bulls, he is exactly what Chicago needs. The Bulls have no leaders and too many quiet guys. Noah is anything but that."

I don't necessarily disagree that they may have too many quiet guys but perhaps the players like it that way. The point I was making is that it is debatable whether Noah's personality is a good fit with the other Bulls players.


Good luck in the lottery next year.

[coldfish]

Coldfish wrote:
"The *minnesota* posters here are making it clear that they have not seen enough of *the Bulls* to make a comment worth reading."

Come on Fish. All that was suggested is that Bulls fans at least check out Craig Smith before saying no every trade idea posted here.

What I said was a direct quote of a Minnesota poster on this thread, which I was obviously having fun with.

Good luck in the lottery next year.

Apparently, shrink does not represent your typical wolves fan.

[deeney0]

Is there any team who's average fan is as articulate and well-informed as shrink?

[coldfish]

Last year, Craig Smith was below where Noah now, but Bracey Wright, with a +8.8 Roland Rating, is far better than Noah.

I don't put a lot of stock in Roland Rating.

That said, I still think Noah > Smith.

One question coldfish. I was surprised to hear you endorsed Noah's attitude when the Bulls team suspended him a game for it. I certainly don't know all the details, but it seemed to me a rookie used to winning games in college shouldn't be mouthy to nba vets, and they reacted that way. I like the passion, but it made me wonder about whether he knows his place as part of a team, and the player's strong reaction seems to indicate hey didn't appreciate it.

Roland Rating is a weak stat. However, it kind of points at why Bulls fans are happy with Noah. Are you guys happy with Wright?

On Noah: I don't know what happened behind closed doors. Its obvious that the situation was pretty severe.

All I can do is judge by what I see on the court and when I see the players together. What I see is that Noah is very aggressive and hates losing. He probably has the best attitude on the team when it comes to what you would want.

Something to consider, and this is not fair to Noah, I am an old school Jordan fan. He got into tons of fights with teammates and many thought he was a complete ****.

Just being a nice guy who doesn't rock the boat isn't necessarily a good thing.

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Another note, to put it in terms you may understand. If Kevin Garnett was on the Bulls, he likely would have gotten into a fist fight with Ben Wallace by now because of Wallace's horrible and lazy attitude both on and off the court. The dude just doesn't seem to care and makes it obvious to anyone who watches him.

The Bulls have significant problems and they do not originate with Noah.

[GopherIt!]

"What I said was a direct quote of a Minnesota poster on this thread, which I was obviously having fun with."

I know that you were quoting Rev, the fun part though wasn't so obvious.
I think Rev was voicing a bit of general frustration with the trade threads which I echoed.