Bulls/Hornets

2poor · Post #21 » by **2poor** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:18 am

So is Hilton instead of Wright and their '08 1st any closer?

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #22 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:21 am

Well I'd much rather have Wright than Hilton and a first to answer you're question. Neither gets the deal done though, I think. I agree with coldfish, for the most part Chicago needs to consolidate.

shrink · Post #23 » by **shrink** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:22 am

DanTown8587 wrote: No, I am saying if the Bulls keep Deng, where is Wright gonna play with Luol, and since Luol would be paid starter minutes, its stupid to trade TT for a guy who is instantly a back-up.

Good point. I agree with you.

2poor · Post #24 » by **2poor** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:28 am

What would it take to just get Thabo and Duhon?

DanTown8587 · Post #25 » by **DanTown8587** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:30 am

Bulls aren't trading Thabo after the week he has had, might be the answer at SG if they lose Gordon (which seems likely)

DanTown8587 · Post #26 » by **DanTown8587** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:32 am

New Orleans and Chicago don't seem like good trading partners because all most all of the big contracts on NO are core guys and the Bulls aren't looking to trade core talent unless its for something BIG

Post #27 » by **coldfish** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:33 am

2poor wrote:What would it take to just get Thabo and Duhon?

NO has a very impressive team. That being said, the player value on NO is pretty concentrated into players you would never consider moving for something Chicago could offer.

Chandler, West and Paul are all off limits for anything reasonable.
Wright plays a position the Bulls are set at.
Peja is too old for Chicago to want.

Because of that, NO really has nothing of interest to the Bulls.

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #28 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:34 am

I think something based aroung Pargo/Butler for Duhon/Thabo could possibly work. It still creates the problem of not consolidating our talent though. Interested in Nocioni at all? If so who might you give up for him?

2poor · Post #29 » by **2poor** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:36 am

Like coldfish said, the core 3 are off limits. Beyond that, anyone is up for grabs, and any potential first rounders would be available as well.

I see your points though, sometimes teams just don't have the right pieces to deal.

Post #30 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:38 am

2poor wrote:Like coldfish said, the core 3 are off limits. Beyond that, anyone is up for grabs, and any potential first rounders would be available as well.

For Duhon, Thabo, I'd take Hilton Armstrong and filler. Mo Pete is an idea as well. Your 08 protected first for Duhon would work as well.

2poor · Post #31 » by **2poor** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:40 am

I think Duhon is a guy they'll target in free agency assuming he stays with Chicago for the rest of the year, which is somewhat of my motivation for just wanting to get it out of the way.

Hilton+filler for Thabo/Duhon would probably be alright with me.

Post #32 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:44 am

2poor wrote:I think Duhon is a guy they'll target in free agency assuming he stays with Chicago for the rest of the year, which is somewhat of my motivation for just wanting to get it out of the way.

Hilton+filler for Thabo/Duhon would probably be alright with me.

I think the Bulls should accept that deal. I'm not huge on Thabo, and Hilton is a real bigman with some potential. He's having a rough go of it right now, but I always felt like its easier to get serviceable guards than serviceable centers.

2poor · Post #33 » by **2poor** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:48 am

I'm high on Hilton, but it seems unfortunately that he'll be best going the way of Brandon Bass. He's played really well in preseason, but he's had trouble staying out of Byron's doghouse. I think moving him to a more...patient atmosphere, will allow him to really work on his game.

Not to say I've lost hope on him in New Orleans, but as a trading asset that's how I view him thus far in his career.

A fundamentally-sound, pass-first PG, combined with a potential SG of the future would IMO be worth letting him go.

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #34 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:51 am

The Bulls are struggling to find time for Thomas and Noah, let alone putting Hilton in the mix.

2poor · Post #35 » by **2poor** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:54 am

Hilton would potentially be your 5. He's got good size, is a solid defender (good shot blocker), and has displayed a budding offensive game. I don't think he'd really interfere with what you're trying to do with Tyrus/Noah.

If anything, it might allow him to focus even more on his offense while he's settling in.

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #36 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:57 am

If we move Wallace first, perhaps. Want to help out with that?

2poor · Post #37 » by **2poor** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:59 am

Friend_Of_Haley wrote:If we move Wallace first, perhaps. Want to help out with that?