Trade partner IDEAS for Zach Randolph (A-Z)

[Rocky5000]

He couldn't play in Denver or GS, because he doesn't fit the high-paced style at all. ]

In fact the only type of team that he'd stylistically fit on are teams that play a slow pace and don't focus on defense. Anyone know any teams like that?

[yungal07]

(and only one IIRC)

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[loserX]

(and only one IIRC)

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[eitanr]

I'd more look at it as a 14 mill dollar 32-34 mpg guy which is what Randolph would be. The Clippers could so what they want with the trio, start Z-Bo with Kaman and have Camby come off the bench, it doesn't really matter. I don't think Thomas is a good enough scorer or a reliable post presence to still fill that void from Brand's offensive output.

Z-Bo in LA could be a high risk high reward situation, but at least Dunleavy has experience dealing with deep teams and distributing minutes accordingly, see Portland in '99 as a prime example.

[manun]

Even Einstein cant save this equation.

[ecuhus1981]

I actually would consider him for Orlando as well. and here's my reasoning. Orlando need rebounding badly and zach can do that and also when dwight goes to the bench you could still have a low post presnce on the floor to spread the floor for Orlandos shooters. EXCEPT, Zach is a blackhole and never passes the ball and is an idiot, so I am not sure it would work out well.

Its such a shame, the guy oozes talent

Well, there IS a trade possibility after all!

Would ORL fans like to do a Zach for Battie, Cook and Bogans deal? How much more sweetener would NYK need (future 2nd/Vazquez?)?

[#1knickfan]

[quote="ecuhus1981']
First of all, it's "complement", not "compliment". They are homonyms.

When you speak of complementary angles in geometry, the bigger angle can be defined as complementary to the smaller one, just like the smaller one can be to the larger one. SO, it's not a matter of which player is more important or more talented, to describe a complementary relationship. If they are complementary to each other, you can it say either way.

As for the comical part, this is like the 50th time I have seen the Camby-for-Zach trade idea. You should know this, the forum was FLOODED with this idea after LAC acquired Marcus. Don't front, #1, NYK fans have had a collective hard-on for Camby long before the DEN deal.
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First of all, whether its complement" or "compliment" doesn't matter because it is still bull$hit. Brand isn't there to complement Kaman. Kaman is the complementary player. If you're expecting Kaman to be the go to guy in the low post and for Camby to complement him they you are expecting to watch a lottery team. Kaman has done nothing to prove he can be a teams first option in the low post. Lets not exaggerate the meaning of one excellent season offensively in what has thus far been an average career offensively.

Secondly, if this is the 50th Camby for Zach deal you've seen on the trade board since the Denver trade feel free to post me the links. I'm often on this site and I haven't seen anything that would resemble a flood. If anything is resembles a line of urine pouring down from the top of a hill. The exaggerations have to stop.

As for the Knicks wanting Camby, would we like Camby? Of course. We all regret the boneheaded deal that sent him to Denver in the first place. But the only player any Knick fan can be accused of having a hard on to aquire is Lebron. For f*cks sake please stop exaggerating.

[TheOUTLAW]

The one team that should be interested is the Clippers and they should not throw Camby in any deal. The Knicks already rejected a 2nd rd pick for Z-Bo, so I am not sure what else the Clipps could offer, but they could re-explore other options if NY gets desperate.

A trade of Mobley and Thomas for Z-Bo and Mardy Collins is the only deal the Clipps should consider. The Knicks get their salary dump of the favorable 2010 off-season and actually get some players that could fit in an MDA system. The Clipps could run a front court trio of Camby/Kaman/Z-Bo. This is helpful for the Clipps who could be hindered by injury problems to either Camby or Kaman or B-Diddy. With any of these injured, Z-Bo would be useful as a big man and a scorer. Also surrounding Z-Bo with as much D as possible could be the best thing for him. There is enough minutes at the 4/5 slot (96) to accomodate 3 guys playing 32 minutes per game.

You are only giving half of the story. Sure the Knicks turned down the trade but that was because the other team only offered a second and wanted back Randolph a pick(I think it was a first) and cash. I think that the Knicks are willing to pay to move randolph, but that was a bit much even for them.

[killacalijatt]

i stopped reading after the Josh Smith for Randolph idea

[SiCk-R-tHaNeVeR]

The one team that should be interested is the Clippers and they should not throw Camby in any deal. The Knicks already rejected a 2nd rd pick for Z-Bo, so I am not sure what else the Clipps could offer, but they could re-explore other options if NY gets desperate.

A trade of Mobley and Thomas for Z-Bo and Mardy Collins is the only deal the Clipps should consider. The Knicks get their salary dump of the favorable 2010 off-season and actually get some players that could fit in an MDA system. The Clipps could run a front court trio of Camby/Kaman/Z-Bo. This is helpful for the Clipps who could be hindered by injury problems to either Camby or Kaman or B-Diddy. With any of these injured, Z-Bo would be useful as a big man and a scorer. Also surrounding Z-Bo with as much D as possible could be the best thing for him. There is enough minutes at the 4/5 slot (96) to accomodate 3 guys playing 32 minutes per game.

You are only giving half of the story. Sure the Knicks turned down the trade but that was because the other team only offered a second and wanted back Randolph a pick(I think it was a first) and cash. I think that the Knicks are willing to pay to move randolph, but that was a bit much even for them.

Seriously? Never heard anything of the sort, link please?

[DrunkOnMystery]

I actually would consider him for Orlando as well. and here's my reasoning. Orlando need rebounding badly and zach can do that and also when dwight goes to the bench you could still have a low post presnce on the floor to spread the floor for Orlandos shooters. EXCEPT, Zach is a blackhole and never passes the ball and is an idiot, so I am not sure it would work out well.

Its such a shame, the guy oozes talent

Well, there IS a trade possibility after all!

Would ORL fans like to do a Zach for Battie, Cook and Bogans deal? How much more sweetener would NYK need (future 2nd/Vazquez?)?

Ok, wow. There are so many things wrong with this from Orlando's perspective, it's hard to even articulate all of it.

First of all, a quick browse of the general board will show that most people believe Orlando's biggest problem moving forward will be CAP flexibility, and you're proposing they take on a ridiculously large, decent length contract in exchange for 3 players. That's problem 1.

Problem 2 is that this trade would leave Orlando with just 11 players on roster, and they'd already be in the luxury tax, which their owner is supposedly unwilling to pay this year.

Problem 3 is that this takes a team that was already weak defensively, and trades two of their better defenders in Bogans and Battie for a player who's only capable of guarding a couch and bag of Doritos.

Problem 4 is the simple fact that the last time Randolph was brought in to play next to a young big, Curry, that young big regressed completely and the whole team turned to useless. Why would Orlando wish that on themselves?

The reality is that if I have to choose between having insanely overpaid Lewis or insanely overpaid Randolph on Orlando playing next to Dwight Howard, I'd rather have Lewis. No matter how much he doesn't deserve his paychecks, at least Lewis makes attempts on defense and isn't a cancer.

[ecuhus1981]

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Hey, I'm not ADVOCATING it. Talk to Toyman7777 about that.

I figured yours would be closer to the majority opinion from Magic fans.

I think we can stick a fork in this thread now; if ORL won't take him, it's pretty much hopeless.

[ecuhus1981]

Seriously? Never heard anything of the sort, link please?

RealGM Wiretap

[SiCk-R-tHaNeVeR]

Seriously? Never heard anything of the sort, link please?

RealGM Wiretap

LOL, that's hilarious! Wish I had seen this before, thanks for the info!

So who is more un-tradeable Curry or Zach? Man I feel sorry for Walsh and NYK fan.

[old rem]

Oh no not another ZBo thread. Cavs want nothing to do with him. Nothing.

Which says a lot because the Cavs probably are the one team that could get some plus from a Zach deal. The Z+Z front line would be painfully slow but would rebound and score. Zach's contract is awful,but the Cavs have overpaid second stringers to move. The big minus is that if it turns out badly,they probably are stuck,and Zach,both on the floor and off the court is a worry.

a long shot might be Denver. They shed K Mart's deal and experiment with having AI-Melo-Zach all trying to take the shot. they'd need a Defensive POY type to cover...and oops....he's gone.

[old rem]

...and the funny part is I'd rather have Zach R than Curry....and relatively, Jefferies and Jerome James are much worse in terms of bang for the buck. I see no "quick fix" though it just takes one GM to think Curry or Zach or ? can help.

[basketballwacko2]

Well all Donnie Walsh has to do is get some teams GM good and drunk and then maybe he can find a taker for Zach or Curry.