Seattle Supersonics 2021 Expansion draft - GMs sign up/protection lists

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Seattle Supersonics 2021 Expansion draft - GMs sign up/protection lists 

Post#1 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:36 am

I think last time there was an NHL expansion draft we did a fake NBA one for fun and since they're doing one for the Kraken, we might as well do a 2021 version

The rules if I didn't miss any:

- 30 GMs sign up for a team and protect 8 players

- A maximum of 8 players who are under contract for 21-22 season or are RFAs this summer can be protected. When a team has 8 eligible or less players, they must leave at least one unprotected. If an RFA is picked by the Sonics, they immediately become a UFA. UFAs and two way contracts can't be picked.

- The Sonics must take a minimum of 14 players overall and a maximum of 1 from each team

- The draft takes place before the 2021 NBA draft therefore no picks from it can be taken yet. The Sonics have been assigned the 4th pick in the 2021 draft.

- The Sonics will have a salary cap of 70% the league average the first year and 80% the second year, but they do not have to regard the salary cap in their draft. This gives them a salary cap of 78.7 million in 2022 and projected 92.6 in 2023, with luxury tax of 95.6 million in 2022 and projected 112.6 in 2023. They have the right to waive any player before the season starts and not have it count towards the cap (although they would be responsible for the real money owed).

When the protection list is complete we will vote on the minimum 14 players or RFAs selected by the Sonics. We will also draft their 2nd pick and pick a few free agents to go there.

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Atlanta Hawks: Buzzard
Boston Celtics: JediMasterRaven
Brooklyn Nets:
Charlotte Hornets: wackbone
Chicago Bulls: ChettheJet
Cleveland Cavaliers:
Dallas Mavericks: daoneandonly
Denver Nuggets:
Detroit Pistons: Pharaoh
Golden State Warriors: gswhoops
Houston Rockets: K_chile22
Indiana Pacers: pacers33granger
Los Angeles Clippers:
Los Angeles Lakers:
Memphis Grizzlies: psman2
Miami Heat: puppa bear
Minnesota Timberwolves: Wolveswin
Milwaukee Bucks: slos
New Orleans Pelicans:
New York Knicks: Knicksfan1982
Oklahoma City Thunder: bondom34
Orlando Magic: Magic_Johnny12
Philadelphia 76ers: Hartford Whalers
Phoenix Suns: jredsaz
Portland Trail Blazers: Norm2953
Sacramento Kings: RipPizzaGuy
San Antonio Spurs: K_chile22
Toronto Raptors: Dr Positivity
Utah Jazz: babyjax13
Washington Wizards: penbeast0

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Post#2 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:37 am

I will be taking the Raptors

Protected players:
Pascal Siakam - 33.0 million
Fred VanVleet - 19.7 million
OG Anunoby - 16.1 million
Chris Boucher - 7.0 million (non-guaranteed)
Malachi Flynn - 2.0 million
Deandre' Bembry - 2.0 million (non-guaranteed)
Yuta Watanabe - 1.8 million (non-guaranteed)
Gary Trent, Jr - RFA

Eligible players:
Rodney Hood - 10.8 million (non-guaranteed)
Aron Baynes - 7.4 million (non-guaranteed)
Paul Watson - 1.7 million (non-guaranteed)
Freddie Gillespie - 1.5 million (non-guaranteed)
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Post#3 » by puppa bear » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:38 am

I’m keen to do the Heat - unless Freak really wants to.
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Post#4 » by babyjax13 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:39 am

Hell yes, I was actually about to start one of these this week, so I'm super glad someone else thought to do it! There is a set of rules in the CBA for this, I'll pull it up and post them here.
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Post#5 » by Buzzard » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:42 am

I will take on protecting the Hawks players if no one else wants it.
''All the individual stuff is for the birds,'' Young said. ''All we care about is wins.'' Trae Young during 2021 playoffs.

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Post#6 » by babyjax13 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:44 am

NBA CBA Expansion Provision (pp. 470):

Section 1. Expansion.
The NBA may determine during the term of this Agreement to expand
the number of Teams and to have existing Teams make available for
assignment to any such Expansion Teams the Player Contracts of a certain
number of Veterans under substantially the same terms and in substantially
the same manner that Player Contracts were made available to the
Charlotte expansion Team pursuant to the 1999 NBA/NBPA Collective
Bargaining Agreement; provided, however, that any change shall be subject
to the approval of the Players Association, which shall not be unreasonably
withheld.


Bobcats Expansion Rules

SUMMARY OF EXPANSION DRAFT RULES

A. Player Selection

The Charlotte Bobcats Expansion Draft will take place on June 22 (if the NBA Finals extend to seven games, it will be June 23), prior to the 2004 NBA Draft on June 24.
The Bobcats will select a minimum of 14 players who are under contract or restricted free agents for the 2004-05 season.
The Bobcats may select no more than one player from each team.
The Bobcats can only select players that are left unprotected by an NBA team.
Each of the 29 NBA teams may protect a maximum of eight players on its roster who are under contract or are restricted free agents at the conclusion of the 2003-04 season.
Each of the 29 NBA teams will designate the players on its roster who are eligible for selection by the Bobcats.
Each of the 29 NBA teams must designate at least one player on its roster to be eligible for selection by the Bobcats, even if the team does not have eight players under contract or as restricted free agents for the 2004-05 season.
Any player under contract selected by the Bobcats will immediately be placed on the Bobcats roster.
Any eligible restricted free agent selected by the Bobcats shall immediately become an unrestricted free agent.
Unrestricted free agents are not eligible to be protected nor are they eligible to be selected by the Bobcats.
B. Pre-Expansion Draft Trades

Teams will be permitted to enter into pre-Expansion Draft trades involving players or draft picks in which Charlotte agrees to select or not select certain unprotected players in return.
C. Salary Cap

Charlotte will be permitted to select players in the Expansion Draft without regard to the Salary Cap.
Charlotte will have a Salary Cap in its first season equal to 66% of the Salary Cap applicable to the rest of the league and a Salary Cap in its second season equal to 75% of the Salary Cap applicable to the rest of the league.
Charlotte will be permitted to sign any restricted free agent it selects in the Expansion Draft using the same “Bird,” “Early Bird” or “Non-Bird” Exception that the player’s prior team would have had.
Compensation paid to a selected player under a contract protected for lack of skill will be excluded from Charlotte’s Team Salary if the player’s contract is terminated (via the waiver procedure) prior to the start of the 2004-05 season.
A team with a Team Salary above the Salary Cap will receive a Trade Exception to replace a player (other than a restricted free agent) selected from its unprotected list.
D. Post-Expansion Draft Transactions

A team will not be permitted to reacquire a player that it loses in the Expansion Draft prior to the expiration of one year from the date of the Expansion Draft, unless the player is waived and not claimed by any other team.
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Post#7 » by babyjax13 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:50 am

Also, re: draft, Charlotte was given the 4th pick and traded up. The Bobcats were ASSIGNED the 4th pick in the first and second rounds of the draft, I assume it would be no different this time around? See the wikipedia page for the lottery, news story for trade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_NBA_draft
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/draft/2004-06-21-draft-roundup_x.htm
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Post#8 » by jredsaz » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:51 am

I'll take suns.

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Post#9 » by babyjax13 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:53 am

Also, I'd be down to take the Jazz, but someone else is free to take them, too, if they want to participate : ) I really like your method of doing a consensus expansion draft, we did not do that when we ran it last year.
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Post#10 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:24 am

Ok, I'll give the Sonics the 4th pick
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Post#11 » by RipPizzaGuy » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:31 am

Cool idea! When do we protect the players?

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Post#12 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:36 am

RipPizzaGuy wrote:Cool idea! When do we protect the players?

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After you sign up you can do it in this thread, I already did mine (not too many hard decisions for the Raptors, although I do like Freddie Gillespie)
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Post#13 » by zimpy27 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:46 am

Just FYI, this isn't in the T and T games section, it's on the T and T board.

But yeah, sign me up. I'll take whatever team no one wants since I am teamless and I'm sure fans will want their team.
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Post#14 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:55 am

zimpy27 wrote:Just FYI, this isn't in the T and T games section, it's on the T and T board.


I feel regular T&T board is a better fit traffic wise and this is more of a collaborative project than a game with people competing against each other like that board's.
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Post#15 » by Buzzard » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:21 am

Hawks Protected Players

Trae Young
Bogdan Bogdanovic
John Collins
Clint Capella
DeAndre Hunter
Kevin Huerter
Cam Reddish
Onyeka Okongwu

Eligible Players

Danilo Gallinari
Bruno Fernando
Kris Dunn PO

I would imagine the Hawks may be willing to throw a pick Seattle's way to keep them from picking Reddish or Gallinari ( whomever they did not protect ). I chose Reddish simply because Gallinari is a huge cap savings if he is chosen.
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Post#16 » by puppa bear » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:24 am

Miami Heat

Protected Players
Precious Achiuwa
Bam Adebayo
Jimmy Butler
Goran Dragic (TO)
Tyler Herro
Kendrick Nunn (RFA)
KZ Okpala
Duncan Robinson (RFA)

Eligible Players
Andre Iguodala (TO) - $15m
Omer Yurtseven - $1.5m

*Team options are held on Dragic & Iguodala for 2021-22. If they are declined then they become UFA.


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Post#17 » by Wolveswin » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:29 am

I will do the Wolves:

Protected:
Towns
Edwards
Russell (Towns’s buddy, can’t make him available)
McDaniels
Beasley
Reid
Okogie
Rubio*

*I went with Rubio. 17.8M expiring, fan and Edwards fav, only contract filler Wolves have in potential trade. Plus he almost undoubtedly gets picked by Sonics in draft as great vet PG on expansion team — rest of Wolves available are MEH. But I could be talked out of it for Culver, Vanderbilt or even Nowell.

Available:
Culver (6.3M, 2nd year TO, Rosas willing to make his bust available)
Hernangomez (6.1M, 2nd year NG)
Layman (3.9M expiring)
Nowell (1.7M, 2nd year TO)
Vanderbilt (2M RFA)
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Post#18 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Sixers have 7 easy:
Embiid
Simmons
Harris
Curry
Thybulle
Maxey
Milton

After that they have:
George Hill (10m, 1.275 gtd)
Isaiah Joe (1.5m gtd)
Paul Reed Jr (1.5m ungtd)
Anthony Tolliver (vet min ungtd)

Really comes down to Paul Reed (G league mvp, and fan favorite everywhere), or George Hill (Sixers means of matching salary in a trade, just traded multiple 2nds for him; but option might not even be picked up.)

I think the actual Sixers would do George Hill, but if a few people complain enough I can switch it to bball Paul.

I think it would be very Morey-esque actually to have it be Paul, and offer a 2nd rounder to Seattle to not select George Hill.

So, *if* we are going off past rules:
Teams will be permitted to enter into pre-Expansion Draft trades involving players or draft picks in which Charlotte agrees to select or not select certain unprotected players in return.

Then I could see the protect Reed and offer a 2nd to keep Hill. And I think that will morph into a trade Hill and a 1st for someone picked off another team.
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Post#19 » by daoneandonly » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:24 pm

Can we nominate who takes our team? I nominate any of Chuck, jayjay, or Mike lorenzo.

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Post#20 » by ChettheJet » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:46 pm

consider this my Chicago Bulls GM application

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