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Jazz Out: Bogdanovic, Favors, 2025 SRP
Jazz In: Grant, Plumlee
Lakers Out: Kuzma, Gasol, McKinnie, 2026 FRP (unprotected), 2023 SRP
Lakers In: Bogdanovic
Pistons Out: Grant, Plumlee
Pistons In: Favors, Gasol, Kuzma, McKinnie, 2023 Lakers SRP, 2025 Jazz SRP, 2026 Lakers FRP
Why for Jazz? I think both Bogdanovic and Grant are similarly ranked players but I feel like Grant fits Jazz needs currently more than Bogdanovic. Jazz desperately need defense in their starting lineup outside Gobert..Grant can add much needed defensive versatility Jazz needs and also is an ok shooter from 3. (not as good as Bogdanovic). Favors -> Plumlee is something which might not really move the needle much for Jazz in either direction but I think Plumlee is a better backup defensively than Favors.
Why for Lakers? Lakers are in win-now mode and badly need some shooting and Bogdanovic can provide that at good efficiency.
Why for Pistons? They seem to be in a rebuild mode with some promising youngsters...they probably would like to cash in on Grant? Lakers 2026 FRP can be a pretty valuable draft pick.
Jazz In: Grant, Plumlee
Lakers Out: Kuzma, Gasol, McKinnie, 2026 FRP (unprotected), 2023 SRP
Lakers In: Bogdanovic
Pistons Out: Grant, Plumlee
Pistons In: Favors, Gasol, Kuzma, McKinnie, 2023 Lakers SRP, 2025 Jazz SRP, 2026 Lakers FRP
Why for Jazz? I think both Bogdanovic and Grant are similarly ranked players but I feel like Grant fits Jazz needs currently more than Bogdanovic. Jazz desperately need defense in their starting lineup outside Gobert..Grant can add much needed defensive versatility Jazz needs and also is an ok shooter from 3. (not as good as Bogdanovic). Favors -> Plumlee is something which might not really move the needle much for Jazz in either direction but I think Plumlee is a better backup defensively than Favors.
Why for Lakers? Lakers are in win-now mode and badly need some shooting and Bogdanovic can provide that at good efficiency.
Why for Pistons? They seem to be in a rebuild mode with some promising youngsters...they probably would like to cash in on Grant? Lakers 2026 FRP can be a pretty valuable draft pick.
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I'd be all over it for the Jazz. Not sure the Pistons feel the Lakers '26 is enough to move Grant.
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eminence wrote:I'd be all over it for the Jazz. Not sure the Pistons feel the Lakers '26 is enough to move Grant.
I was mainly wondering about how Pistons would feel as I am not exactly sure what Grant's current trade value is..but 2026 Unprotected Lakers FRP can be like super valuable though.
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2026 is a long time to wait. Somebody likely makes a better offer if Pistons want to move Grant.
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GoBobs wrote:2026 is a long time to wait. Somebody likely makes a better offer if Pistons want to move Grant.
That's the only next available Lakers FRP that's available to trade...since it's 5 years away and with Lebron likely to have been retired by then, thought it can be extremely valuable down the line...kinda like Nets-Celtics trade where Celtics got the 2018 unprotected FRP from Nets which ended up being a No1 pick
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Not sure the Pistons do this, but love it for the Jazz.
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life_saver wrote:eminence wrote:I'd be all over it for the Jazz. Not sure the Pistons feel the Lakers '26 is enough to move Grant.
I was mainly wondering about how Pistons would feel as I am not exactly sure what Grant's current trade value is..but 2026 Unprotected Lakers FRP can be like super valuable though.
I’ll jump on that for you. Not close enough at all.
You figure Grant is worth a lower teens pick, Plumlee should be able to be traded fairly easily and get something worthwhile back.
Favors at this point is a guy who should get right around $5 million per season. I don’t mind Gasol for a budget version of Plumlees role. Kuzma doesn’t really seem to help or hurt. I feel like he’ll be best off as a 1st forward off the bench moving forward.
The draft picks do nothing other than the possibility that post lebron the Lakers fall apart and the pick is unprotected.
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If we could send out Ingles, Favors, 30 and a future first we should do it.
Ingles is cooked.
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LeBron starts at SF, Davis starts at PF. What position does Bogdanovic start at?
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If Lakers are gonna pay the lion share value for Grant, guessing theyre gonna want him to themselves. Dont see this for Pistons anyways tho
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Utat is not giving up enough, they should give up a future 1st (say 2024) instead of that 2nd.
They get to upgrade at the C spot and I think Grant is comparable to Bojan, but he is younger and gives them more athleticism
Lakers probably don't give up that future pick but they could give up their current 1st and 2 2nds
I think Lakers also want to keep Marc, I think salaries should work with Alfonzo or they could agree on who to pick and then ship the guy out for salary later in the summer (right?)
I don't know if Detroit bites, but a late 1st, a future 1st (likely late) and 2 2nds isn't awful
Still get to cash in on Grant and Kuzma can lead the tank and maybe get shipped out in a couple years when expiring
They get to upgrade at the C spot and I think Grant is comparable to Bojan, but he is younger and gives them more athleticism
Lakers probably don't give up that future pick but they could give up their current 1st and 2 2nds
I think Lakers also want to keep Marc, I think salaries should work with Alfonzo or they could agree on who to pick and then ship the guy out for salary later in the summer (right?)
I don't know if Detroit bites, but a late 1st, a future 1st (likely late) and 2 2nds isn't awful
Still get to cash in on Grant and Kuzma can lead the tank and maybe get shipped out in a couple years when expiring
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life_saver wrote:Jazz Out: Bogdanovic, Favors, 2025 SRP
Jazz In: Grant, Plumlee
Lakers Out: Kuzma, Gasol, McKinnie, 2026 FRP (unprotected), 2023 SRP
Lakers In: Bogdanovic
Pistons Out: Grant, Plumlee
Pistons In: Favors, Gasol, Kuzma, McKinnie, 2023 Lakers SRP, 2025 Jazz SRP, 2026 Lakers FRP
Why for Jazz? I think both Bogdanovic and Grant are similarly ranked players but I feel like Grant fits Jazz needs currently more than Bogdanovic. Jazz desperately need defense in their starting lineup outside Gobert..Grant can add much needed defensive versatility Jazz needs and also is an ok shooter from 3. (not as good as Bogdanovic). Favors -> Plumlee is something which might not really move the needle much for Jazz in either direction but I think Plumlee is a better backup defensively than Favors.
Why for Lakers? Lakers are in win-now mode and badly need some shooting and Bogdanovic can provide that at good efficiency.
Why for Pistons? They seem to be in a rebuild mode with some promising youngsters...they probably would like to cash in on Grant? Lakers 2026 FRP can be a pretty valuable draft pick.
Awful trade for Detroit. A future pick five years down the road? Terrible deal for Detroit. Easy no.
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Anyone putting together a Grant deal needs to realize Detroit’s goals: make the playoffs in 22 or 23, build through the draft unless a young star that fits is available, and use any extra cap on reclamation projects or contracts for compensation.
Nothing else is going to grab Weaver’s interest. His first draft went well, we have some young talent, and we’re about to get another piece in the draft. Kuzma isn’t worth having without getting paid for it. Gasol and Favors aren’t either. Grant can go, but we need to get things that help the process, and 2nds and a very distant 1st of indeterminable value aren’t it.
Nothing else is going to grab Weaver’s interest. His first draft went well, we have some young talent, and we’re about to get another piece in the draft. Kuzma isn’t worth having without getting paid for it. Gasol and Favors aren’t either. Grant can go, but we need to get things that help the process, and 2nds and a very distant 1st of indeterminable value aren’t it.
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