What happens to Beal?

[nolaPELSfan]

Beal, #10, the 5 2nds, '29 UTA/CLE/MIN 1st(worst)
for
Dejounte, Olynyk, Alvarado, Hawkins
?

Seems significantly too good for Phoenix if Murray is going to be healthy by training camp?

It may be good for them but i would still do it as a pels fan for the #10 and since we have most of our future 2nds sent out already. I don't think Murray will be back until like christmas but idk.

[JJ_PR]

Gambo just doubled down on his claim that Beal won’t be a Sun next season. 90% he gets bought out. He did mention that there may be a team with bad money that he could get flipped for and willing to go. Who that is, I have no idea.

My guess would be Paul George. I have zero sources though, so I could be wrong.

[babyjax13]

Beal + 10 + 2032 pick swap into Brooklyn's cap space post-draft?

[GatherStepGuru]

Lakers?

Beal, #10, 2027 1st, for Reaves, Vanderbilt, Kleber, Vincent

Not sure how Lakers fans would feel abt it, but Reaves is kind of redundant with Luka now; get some picks to build around Luka in the future while letting Beal play off Lebron and Luka for a year or 2.

[jredsaz]

Keeping the Portland idea going for some reason.. Complicating it because I don’t want to send Grant to Minnesota..

Royce, Timelord, and 10 to Minnesota
Randle and Grant to Phoenix
Beal and 17 to Portland

Then trade Grayson for Gafford and bring Grant in as sixth man?

Feel like Minn owes 31 to someone? The players they get back are decent fits..

Minn trades up to draft CMB or Carter Bryant (or whoever) and trims some tax money for Naz/NAW.

Phoenix trades out to get Randle.

Portland gets another first round pick this year, trades Simons to highest bidder and waits until 2027-2028 to renegotiate Deni.

I freaking love this for Portland.

That response makes me feel like maybe Portland owes Minnesota the seconds and not the other way around..

I’m wondering why Minnesota gets 10?

[jredsaz]

Lakers?

Beal, #10, 2027 1st, for Reaves, Vanderbilt, Kleber, Vincent

Not sure how Lakers fans would feel abt it, but Reaves is kind of redundant with Luka now; get some picks to build around Luka in the future while letting Beal play off Lebron and Luka for a year or 2.

I think the Suns do that in a heartbeat and flip Reaves for a pick and a big. Maybe Reaves/Kleber to BRK for Claxton and #19?

[jayjaysee]

I freaking love this for Portland.

That response makes me feel like maybe Portland owes Minnesota the seconds and not the other way around..

I’m wondering why Minnesota gets 10?

Because they pay Portland to get rid of Beal and give Phoenix someone they can actually believe in as a long term second option?

[TheNetsFan]

Only team that may give value is the Nets.

I could see a Claxton+26+36 for Beal+10 trade happening. Nets still have a ton of capspace and they get pick 10. Suns drop out of the tax, get a starting C and load up on youth in the draft (26, 29, 36, 52, 59).

Why on earth would Brooklyn give up value for Beal+10? Just because they have cap space and assets doesn't mean they will give it away.

I could see them being willing to include Claxton in the deal, but not the picks. The Nets or another team's willingness to take on Beal likely comes down to what buyout can be agreed to. If Beal can line up a MLE deal, is willing to leave that type of money on the table, and he's willing to defer the buyout until after the summer so that Brooklyn can take the full salary hit this year, and the full reduction next year, then maybe Brooklyn does it for #10.

I think the Nets will want to maintain as much '26 cap space as possible. If Beal will be willing to leave about $20mil in a buyout that can all be realized next year, his buyout minus Claxton's outgoing salary doesn't eat too much additional '26 cap.

[jredsaz]

That response makes me feel like maybe Portland owes Minnesota the seconds and not the other way around..

I’m wondering why Minnesota gets 10?

Because they pay Portland to get rid of Beal and give Phoenix someone they can actually believe in as a long term second option?

I just think that #10 should probably go to the team that takes back Beal

[jayjaysee]

I’m wondering why Minnesota gets 10?

Because they pay Portland to get rid of Beal and give Phoenix someone they can actually believe in as a long term second option?

I just think that #10 should probably go to the team that takes back Beal

Getting off of Grant a year early makes up for most of Beal in my mind.

I think Jrue killed Portland’s potential interest in Beal. Willingness might be better word. Though playing with Jrue could be a selling point really? Seems a bit too heavy on vet leadership, but play all four 24 mpg and hope the kids develop? Eh.

[jayjaysee]

So.. salaries aren’t quite perfect, but that can be fixed up pretty easily, if it wasn’t such an unrealistic idea. Not writing the value out to avoid getting yelled at for such an unrealistic idea.

Beal “and value” to Dallas
Martin to any 4th team MLE/TPE
Klay, Randle, Gafford to Phoenix
PJ and Richards to Minnesota

Beal gets to move to a nice city and play with AD? He’ll have a chance with Kyrie out to show he’s better than what we last saw.

Dallas gets value and an offensive guard sort of. Have to dump Hardy/Powell to back fill roster under second apron but that’s what seconds are for.

Minnesota clears 12 mil for Naz/NAW makes a nice four big lineup for a year.

Phoenix gives Booker a better second option and upgrades their low level starting center to a slightly better low levels starting center.

[In-N-Out 247]

Lakers?

Beal, #10, 2027 1st, for Reaves, Vanderbilt, Kleber, Vincent

Not sure how Lakers fans would feel abt it, but Reaves is kind of redundant with Luka now; get some picks to build around Luka in the future while letting Beal play off Lebron and Luka for a year or 2.

While I agree that the Lakers along with probably the Clippers and the Heat are the only teams that Beal would waive his NTC for, there is just no way the Lakers trade for Beal. And they are certainly not trading Reaves in that deal - it'd have to be some combination of Hachimura, Vincent, Kleber, Vanderbilt. Teams make dumb trades all the time and the Laker's have been the beneficiary (Luka) and the victim (Westbrook) of some of those deals recently so who knows, but I think I can say with 99% confidence that Beal will not be traded to the Lakers.

I could see him signing here as a free agent if the Suns are crazy enough to cut him though.

[Laimbeer]

Beal for Holiday and Grant? (needs a third team)

[DirtyDez]

I don’t think a Beal trade happens unless the receiving team gets him to drop his NTC going forward which he’d never agree to doing. I think he get stretched after next season.

[Saul Goodman]

fold it into the CJ Poole deal befoe the draft




to Phoenix
Kelly Olynk
CJ McCollum
#18


to Washington
Bradley Beal
#10


to New Orleans
Poole
#40



Phoenix Stays somewhat competitve around Booker and keeps a 1st

The Wiz can get a guy like Derrick Queen at #10 after getting Ace Bailey at #6


Smart/Beal/Middleton/Coulibaly/Sarr

Kispert/Carrington/George/bailey/Queen


its a fun team that can probably be somewhat competitve on their way to the lottery next year. Alot of vets to help along the huge amount of youth

[hcsilla]

Most of these deals would be painfully stupid from the Suns.

Sacrfiyng major assets for getting rid of Beal would be an even bigger mistake than trading for him was.

[GatherStepGuru]

fold it into the CJ Poole deal befoe the draft




to Phoenix
Kelly Olynk
CJ McCollum
#18


to Washington
Bradley Beal
#10


to New Orleans
Poole
#40



Phoenix Stays somewhat competitve around Booker and keeps a 1st

The Wiz can get a guy like Derrick Queen at #10 after getting Ace Bailey at #6


Smart/Beal/Middleton/Coulibaly/Sarr

Kispert/Carrington/George/bailey/Queen


its a fun team that can probably be somewhat competitve on their way to the lottery next year. Alot of vets to help along the huge amount of youth

Wash probably would want more than moving from 18 to 10 to take back Beal. As is, WAS will have 100 mill in cap space next summer. Olynyk is also valuable bc they don’t have many bigs as of now. To tie that newfound flexibility up with Beal, they’d need more compensation.

WAS doesn’t necessarily have much incentive to help PHX be competitive quickly. They have a 2026 pick swap with PHX that would be nice to use.

[DirtyDez]

They cannot just stretch waive him as is, because they already stretch waived Little/Liddell. A team can have no more than 15% of the salary cap stretch waived, and Beal would have to take a decently substantial buyout to get below that.

How much would Beal & Little stretch cap hit combine for? It seems less than 15% of the $154m salary cap for 25-26’.

15% of the cap is about $23.2m. Beal stretch waived would be $22.16m. Little and Liddell are already stretch waived on the books for $3.81m combined.

Okay can the Suns…

1.) buy him out for $2-3m less than his remaining salary to get under the 15% stretch stipulation? The incentive for Beal is that he’d be a FA and likely make it up with a new team

2.) waive him, keep his cap hit for next season then stretch his last year of his already waived cap hit

[hoopsfan777]

Beal
for
Norman Powell
Bogdan Bogdanovic
Derrick Jones Jr.

[Scoot McGroot]

How much would Beal & Little stretch cap hit combine for? It seems less than 15% of the $154m salary cap for 25-26’.

15% of the cap is about $23.2m. Beal stretch waived would be $22.16m. Little and Liddell are already stretch waived on the books for $3.81m combined.

Okay can the Suns…

1.) buy him out for $2-3m less than his remaining salary to get under the 15% stretch stipulation? The incentive for Beal is that he’d be a FA and likely make it up with a new team

Don’t know the exact number (sorry, cooking dinner for the kids, let me get to a computer later and run it), but remember that buyouts are spread throughout all remaining years, and with the raise year over year, etc, so the buyout would have to be enough to satisfy those provisions.

2.) waive him, keep his cap hit for next season then stretch his last year of his already waived cap hit

Yup. The new CBA allows you to just waive a guy, and elect at ANY stretch window if you would like to start stretching the remainder from that year on. Once stretched, you can’t unstretch, though.