Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah

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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#101 » by jscott » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:59 am

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jscott wrote:Any chance Kyle Anderson gets bought out?

Unlikely before the deadline, since he's a 10M expiring that can come in handy, very likely after the deadline.

Good call. I didn’t realize he was an expiring.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#102 » by Mavrelous » Tue Jul 8, 2025 9:03 am

Seems like Utah generated a 26.5 TPE, and an option to create outright 25-30M cap space with few trade, maybe Giddy S&T or offer sheet attempt?
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#103 » by BBallFreak » Tue Jul 8, 2025 10:21 am

I have to admit, when I saw the tweet, I thought it was a fake. I thought, "There is no way that we got Norman Powell for that!" It still seems strange that he cost that little.

I think we can make a back court with he and Tyler Herro work well together. With Wiggins providing competent play at small forward on both ends of the floor, and Bam and Ware providing solid front Court defense, I think we could be a tough out for other teams. The question of course will be on health. Can we stay healthy? Powell missing 20 games a year and Herro's health concerns is not a great start. Powell at least, will be much more replaceable then Jimmy was..

To me, this seems like a souped-up upgrade over Duncan Robinson. He's a much more complete player who won't have to be hidden the same way on defense. He may not be a world beater but he's at least average. That's a major step up sadly. For a team that prides itself on defense, being the exact League Middle point at 15th overall is unacceptable. I think a training camp for Mitchell, Wiggins, and now Powell, and growth from Ware, as well as Bam acclimating to power forward, will help a great deal.

I've seen people here predicting 30 to 40 wins this coming year. I cannot agree with that assessment. Miami won 37 last year with Jimmy trying to destroy the team from the inside. That was an incredible distraction. And now, having the chance to integrate some defensive pieces and having offensively competent players at every position, I think .500 is certainly attainable. I still think Miami is a major move or two away (which they may not have in them) from being atop The conference, but I don't see why they couldn't be a solid team this year.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#104 » by zimpy27 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 10:59 am

BBallFreak wrote:I have to admit, when I saw the tweet, I thought it was a fake. I thought, "There is no way that we got Norman Powell for that!" It still seems strange that he cost that little.

I think we can make a back court with he and Tyler Herro work well together. With Wiggins providing competent play at small forward on both ends of the floor, and Bam and Ware providing solid front Court defense, I think we could be a tough out for other teams. The question of course will be on health. Can we stay healthy? Powell missing 20 games a year and Herro's health concerns is not a great start. Powell at least, will be much more replaceable then Jimmy was..

To me, this seems like a souped-up upgrade over Duncan Robinson. He's a much more complete player who won't have to be hidden the same way on defense. He may not be a world beater but he's at least average. That's a major step up sadly. For a team that prides itself on defense, being the exact League Middle point at 15th overall is unacceptable. I think a training camp for Mitchell, Wiggins, and now Powell, and growth from Ware, as well as Bam acclimating to power forward, will help a great deal.

I've seen people here predicting 30 to 40 wins this coming year. I cannot agree with that assessment. Miami won 37 last year with Jimmy trying to destroy the team from the inside. That was an incredible distraction. And now, having the chance to integrate some defensive pieces and having offensively competent players at every position, I think .500 is certainly attainable. I still think Miami is a major move or two away (which they may not have in them) from being atop The conference, but I don't see why they couldn't be a solid team this year.


Wouldn't 30-40 wins also mean that .500 is attainable?
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#105 » by BBallFreak » Tue Jul 8, 2025 12:45 pm

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BBallFreak wrote:I have to admit, when I saw the tweet, I thought it was a fake. I thought, "There is no way that we got Norman Powell for that!" It still seems strange that he cost that little.

I think we can make a back court with he and Tyler Herro work well together. With Wiggins providing competent play at small forward on both ends of the floor, and Bam and Ware providing solid front Court defense, I think we could be a tough out for other teams. The question of course will be on health. Can we stay healthy? Powell missing 20 games a year and Herro's health concerns is not a great start. Powell at least, will be much more replaceable then Jimmy was..

To me, this seems like a souped-up upgrade over Duncan Robinson. He's a much more complete player who won't have to be hidden the same way on defense. He may not be a world beater but he's at least average. That's a major step up sadly. For a team that prides itself on defense, being the exact League Middle point at 15th overall is unacceptable. I think a training camp for Mitchell, Wiggins, and now Powell, and growth from Ware, as well as Bam acclimating to power forward, will help a great deal.

I've seen people here predicting 30 to 40 wins this coming year. I cannot agree with that assessment. Miami won 37 last year with Jimmy trying to destroy the team from the inside. That was an incredible distraction. And now, having the chance to integrate some defensive pieces and having offensively competent players at every position, I think .500 is certainly attainable. I still think Miami is a major move or two away (which they may not have in them) from being atop The conference, but I don't see why they couldn't be a solid team this year.


Wouldn't 30-40 wins also mean that .500 is attainable?

Sure, attainable, but on the outside of what the team can do. I just can't agree with that assessment. I think .500 is the minimum of what they should do
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#106 » by SA37 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:15 pm

BBallFreak wrote:I have to admit, when I saw the tweet, I thought it was a fake. I thought, "There is no way that we got Norman Powell for that!" It still seems strange that he cost that little.

I think we can make a back court with he and Tyler Herro work well together. With Wiggins providing competent play at small forward on both ends of the floor, and Bam and Ware providing solid front Court defense, I think we could be a tough out for other teams. The question of course will be on health. Can we stay healthy? Powell missing 20 games a year and Herro's health concerns is not a great start. Powell at least, will be much more replaceable then Jimmy was..

To me, this seems like a souped-up upgrade over Duncan Robinson. He's a much more complete player who won't have to be hidden the same way on defense. He may not be a world beater but he's at least average. That's a major step up sadly. For a team that prides itself on defense, being the exact League Middle point at 15th overall is unacceptable. I think a training camp for Mitchell, Wiggins, and now Powell, and growth from Ware, as well as Bam acclimating to power forward, will help a great deal.

I've seen people here predicting 30 to 40 wins this coming year. I cannot agree with that assessment. Miami won 37 last year with Jimmy trying to destroy the team from the inside. That was an incredible distraction. And now, having the chance to integrate some defensive pieces and having offensively competent players at every position, I think .500 is certainly attainable. I still think Miami is a major move or two away (which they may not have in them) from being atop The conference, but I don't see why they couldn't be a solid team this year.


For $500k, Miami upgraded from one-dimensional Robinson to Powell. That is a win and another lesson of why you don't overpay for mediocrity -- something Miami should keep in mind when it comes to extending Herro.

If Miami can stay reasonably healthy -- no one more important than Bam given how anemic Miami's frontcourt is -- Miami should win 45-47 games with the current roster. We'll see what moves, if any, Miami makes the rest of the offseason. Signing Lillard is probably the most bang-for-your-buck move Miami could make, but would not pay off until 26-27.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#107 » by BBallFreak » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:29 pm

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BBallFreak wrote:I have to admit, when I saw the tweet, I thought it was a fake. I thought, "There is no way that we got Norman Powell for that!" It still seems strange that he cost that little.

I think we can make a back court with he and Tyler Herro work well together. With Wiggins providing competent play at small forward on both ends of the floor, and Bam and Ware providing solid front Court defense, I think we could be a tough out for other teams. The question of course will be on health. Can we stay healthy? Powell missing 20 games a year and Herro's health concerns is not a great start. Powell at least, will be much more replaceable then Jimmy was..

To me, this seems like a souped-up upgrade over Duncan Robinson. He's a much more complete player who won't have to be hidden the same way on defense. He may not be a world beater but he's at least average. That's a major step up sadly. For a team that prides itself on defense, being the exact League Middle point at 15th overall is unacceptable. I think a training camp for Mitchell, Wiggins, and now Powell, and growth from Ware, as well as Bam acclimating to power forward, will help a great deal.

I've seen people here predicting 30 to 40 wins this coming year. I cannot agree with that assessment. Miami won 37 last year with Jimmy trying to destroy the team from the inside. That was an incredible distraction. And now, having the chance to integrate some defensive pieces and having offensively competent players at every position, I think .500 is certainly attainable. I still think Miami is a major move or two away (which they may not have in them) from being atop The conference, but I don't see why they couldn't be a solid team this year.


For $500k, Miami upgraded from one-dimensional Robinson to Powell. That is a win and another lesson of why you don't overpay for mediocrity -- something Miami should keep in mind when it comes to extending Herro.

If Miami can stay reasonably healthy -- no one more important than Bam given how anemic Miami's frontcourt is -- Miami should win 45-47 games with the current roster. We'll see what moves, if any, Miami makes the rest of the offseason. Signing Lillard is probably the most bang-for-your-buck move Miami could make, but would not pay off until 26-27.

That's the win total I was thinking barring any major moves or injuries. There is definitely enough talent to be out of the play-in imo
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#108 » by SA37 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:40 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
SA37 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I have to admit, when I saw the tweet, I thought it was a fake. I thought, "There is no way that we got Norman Powell for that!" It still seems strange that he cost that little.

I think we can make a back court with he and Tyler Herro work well together. With Wiggins providing competent play at small forward on both ends of the floor, and Bam and Ware providing solid front Court defense, I think we could be a tough out for other teams. The question of course will be on health. Can we stay healthy? Powell missing 20 games a year and Herro's health concerns is not a great start. Powell at least, will be much more replaceable then Jimmy was..

To me, this seems like a souped-up upgrade over Duncan Robinson. He's a much more complete player who won't have to be hidden the same way on defense. He may not be a world beater but he's at least average. That's a major step up sadly. For a team that prides itself on defense, being the exact League Middle point at 15th overall is unacceptable. I think a training camp for Mitchell, Wiggins, and now Powell, and growth from Ware, as well as Bam acclimating to power forward, will help a great deal.

I've seen people here predicting 30 to 40 wins this coming year. I cannot agree with that assessment. Miami won 37 last year with Jimmy trying to destroy the team from the inside. That was an incredible distraction. And now, having the chance to integrate some defensive pieces and having offensively competent players at every position, I think .500 is certainly attainable. I still think Miami is a major move or two away (which they may not have in them) from being atop The conference, but I don't see why they couldn't be a solid team this year.


For $500k, Miami upgraded from one-dimensional Robinson to Powell. That is a win and another lesson of why you don't overpay for mediocrity -- something Miami should keep in mind when it comes to extending Herro.

If Miami can stay reasonably healthy -- no one more important than Bam given how anemic Miami's frontcourt is -- Miami should win 45-47 games with the current roster. We'll see what moves, if any, Miami makes the rest of the offseason. Signing Lillard is probably the most bang-for-your-buck move Miami could make, but would not pay off until 26-27.

That's the win total I was thinking barring any major moves or injuries. There is definitely enough talent to be out of the play-in imo


Yeah, even with everything last year, Miami lost ~18 games where they had a 20-point lead. You cut that in half and Miami ends up with 46 wins.

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