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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#101 » by jredsaz » Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:16 am

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brackdan70 wrote:Assuming Thompson or Sengun are not involved, Houston does not have the assets to get White.


I don’t believe that’s true at all

What’s the trade without either of those two?
I don’t see it. Celtics wouldn’t be interested in a package of late picks and role players for a guy like White.


I mean they have future Mavs, Nets and Suns firsts. Eason, Sheppard, Jabari as young pieces. FVV, Adam’s and DFS as salary. There is a deal there for the Celtics. I just don’t think that’s what the Rockets are going to spend their assets on.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#102 » by brackdan70 » Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:53 am

jredsaz wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
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I don’t believe that’s true at all

What’s the trade without either of those two?
I don’t see it. Celtics wouldn’t be interested in a package of late picks and role players for a guy like White.


I mean they have future Mavs, Nets and Suns firsts. Eason, Sheppard, Jabari as young pieces. FVV, Adam’s and DFS as salary. There is a deal there for the Celtics. I just don’t think that’s what the Rockets are going to spend their assets on.

I suppose a package of Eason, Smith, a best of 2027, and another future pick probably is fair. I don’t see either team really into it this season though.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#103 » by JHFVF07 » Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:52 pm

No way Im trading Reaves for Eason. Reaves can be Luka helper (Like was Brunson/Irving) for the next years. I dont like Eason as player, and considering Houston aproach this summer, neither them.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#104 » by jredsaz » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:10 am

brackdan70 wrote:
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brackdan70 wrote:What’s the trade without either of those two?
I don’t see it. Celtics wouldn’t be interested in a package of late picks and role players for a guy like White.


I mean they have future Mavs, Nets and Suns firsts. Eason, Sheppard, Jabari as young pieces. FVV, Adam’s and DFS as salary. There is a deal there for the Celtics. I just don’t think that’s what the Rockets are going to spend their assets on.

I suppose a package of Eason, Smith, a best of 2027, and another future pick probably is fair. I don’t see either team really into it this season though.


I think his value is at/near the Desmon Bane trade. I think it is pick heavy v youth. But I agree, I dont think it’s going to happen
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#105 » by jredsaz » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:14 am

Reed Sheppard plus salary for Coby White makes a lot of sense to me
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Post#106 » by Jkam31 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:24 pm

Schroeder, Carter and a first

For

Reed and Eason

Houston gets a starting pg and a backup guard
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Post#107 » by Magicman125 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:48 pm

louc1970 wrote:Quick overreaction

Reed - the game is still too fast for him.
Eason - playing time limited by Durant/Smith

Use these 2 plus extra pieces (Olivier, DFS, etc..) to get a PG.

Could Garland be available for a package?
Cheap short term rental of Rozier?
Fox when eligible?


If you want a cheap short term rental of a PG that can run the offense, ORL may want a mulligan on their one year Tyus Jones flyer.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#108 » by jbk1234 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:01 pm

JHFVF07 wrote:No way Im trading Reaves for Eason. Reaves can be Luka helper (Like was Brunson/Irving) for the next years. I dont like Eason as player, and considering Houston aproach this summer, neither them.


Both of them need to get paid and only one of them is restricted. My concern with Reaves is that he's already done the Lakers a favor by agreeing to his current contract. I suspect his agent will caution against a second one in his peak earning years.
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Post#109 » by Jkam31 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:57 pm

Schroeder, Carter, and a second

For

Reed, capela, and Tate
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#110 » by esvl » Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:42 pm

Eason for Pippen, GG Jackson, MEM 1st 2026 (lottery protected)?
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#111 » by Sactowndog » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:39 pm

jredsaz wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
I don’t believe that’s true at all

What’s the trade without either of those two?
I don’t see it. Celtics wouldn’t be interested in a package of late picks and role players for a guy like White.


I mean they have future Mavs, Nets and Suns firsts. Eason, Sheppard, Jabari as young pieces. FVV, Adam’s and DFS as salary. There is a deal there for the Celtics. I just don’t think that’s what the Rockets are going to spend their assets on.


Still not sure why they didn’t put in a bid for Fox last year.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#112 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:15 pm

Why? Let Zach just draft. Eason making $25 million, just why?

esvl wrote:Eason for Pippen, GG Jackson, MEM 1st 2026 (lottery protected)?
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Post#113 » by LarsV8 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:43 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Why? Let Zach just draft. Eason making $25 million, just why?

esvl wrote:Eason for Pippen, GG Jackson, MEM 1st 2026 (lottery protected)?


No to that deal, and probably because Eason is really really good.
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Post#114 » by ThatBoyNick » Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:28 pm

That Mem offer is more than fair value wise.

Direction wise, almost any trade will be difficult with how this team is built.

Houston has a lot of "belief" in Reed, which sounds like a lot of credibility on the line for some of the front office guys after drafting him at #3. Trading for a Dennis Schroder, Coby White, Pippen Jr level player, at the expense of Eason or draft capital, just to kick Reed out of the rotation is quite a doozy.

I think, if any deal happens at all for a ball handler, it will either be very small (Jeff Green, 2nds for a Jevon Carter type or something like that) or it's got to be a guard who has enough size and defensive ability to play alongside Reed, and that has enough talent to make the shakeup worth while.

I think a FVV, Capela + draft compensation for a guy like Jrue or White could make sense (if Fred is willing to sign off).
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#115 » by gswhoops » Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:19 pm

ThatBoyNick wrote:That Mem offer is more than fair value wise.

Direction wise, almost any trade will be difficult with how this team is built.

Houston has a lot of "belief" in Reed, which sounds like a lot of credibility on the line for some of the front office guys after drafting him at #3. Trading for a Dennis Schroder, Coby White, Pippen Jr level player, at the expense of Eason or draft capital, just to kick Reed out of the rotation is quite a doozy.

I think, if any deal happens at all for a ball handler, it will either be very small (Jeff Green, 2nds for a Jevon Carter type or something like that) or it's got to be a guard who has enough size and defensive ability to play alongside Reed, and that has enough talent to make the shakeup worth while.

I think a FVV, Capela + draft compensation for a guy like Jrue or White could make sense (if Fred is willing to sign off).

That would have to be a LOT of draft compensation (particularly for White, assuming you mean Derrick and not Coby). FVV + Capela is a neutral to negative value package on its own.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#116 » by esvl » Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:37 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Why? Let Zach just draft. Eason making $25 million, just why?

esvl wrote:Eason for Pippen, GG Jackson, MEM 1st 2026 (lottery protected)?

Eason is an elite, impactful defender. 25 is reasonable money. Aldama is making 18. A non-lottery pick is 50% another LaRavia or Roddy. I am not sure did you use “why” twice.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#117 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:48 pm

esvl wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Why? Let Zach just draft. Eason making $25 million, just why?

esvl wrote:Eason for Pippen, GG Jackson, MEM 1st 2026 (lottery protected)?

Eason is an elite, impactful defender. 25 is reasonable money. Aldama is making 18. A non-lottery pick is 50% another LaRavia or Roddy. I am not sure did you use “why” twice.

I used "why" once and then "just why" for emphasis

I'm watching more H-Town this year, maybe I just haven't seen Eason at his best, but I dont love that move for the Griz
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#118 » by esvl » Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:59 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
esvl wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Why? Let Zach just draft. Eason making $25 million, just why?


Eason is an elite, impactful defender. 25 is reasonable money. Aldama is making 18. A non-lottery pick is 50% another LaRavia or Roddy. I am not sure did you use “why” twice.

I used "why" once and then "just why" for emphasis

I'm watching more H-Town this year, maybe I just haven't seen Eason at his best, but I dont love that move for the Griz

We have lacked a big, nasty defender for many years. JJJ is physical, but soft. And he cannot guard big wings. Also, it is a consolidation-type of trade for us. We have no much playing time for Pippen and GG. Eason covers our biggest need. We would even be able to listen to Godfather offers for JJJ.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#119 » by ThatBoyNick » Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:15 pm

gswhoops wrote:That would have to be a LOT of draft compensation (particularly for White, assuming you mean Derrick and not Coby). FVV + Capela is a neutral to negative value package on its own.


It would depend on the picks going out and what protections, we have 2 higher potential picks through PHX/BKN/Mavs in 2027 & 2029, and then we have a good amount of our own.

If the price were a kings ransom for those two, I'd definitely hope we'd just stand pat, I don't it would be responsible to send a 3-4+ pick haul for what are fantastic role players getting paid fair money.
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Re: Rockets over-reaction trade 

Post#120 » by gswhoops » Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:21 pm

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gswhoops wrote:That would have to be a LOT of draft compensation (particularly for White, assuming you mean Derrick and not Coby). FVV + Capela is a neutral to negative value package on its own.


It would depend on the picks going out and what protections, we have 2 higher potential picks through PHX/BKN/Mavs in 2027 & 2029, and then we have a good amount of our own.

If the price were a kings ransom for those two, I'd definitely hope we'd just stand pat, I don't it would be responsible to send a 3-4+ pick haul for what are fantastic role players getting paid fair money.

For White I think it would probably take something like 2 good picks + 1 ok pick (or 2 swaps). Role player is selling White short, he may not be a superstar but he's a top 50 player in the league.

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